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Article #77Re: NIMBY why Bart in Peninsula is a subway?
From: John Bianco
Date: Sun, 06 Dec 1998 00:00
Date: Sun, 06 Dec 1998 00:00
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Phil Kane > wrote in message ... >On Thu, 03 Dec 1998 13:14:25 -0800, Stash810@ix.netcom.com wrote: > >> BART is noisy, a proven by the original lines that run on els or at the >> surface. Therefore, to avoid ruining the quality of life of Peninsula >> residents, it seems logical to put the whole mess underground (or as >> much of it as possible). >> >> BART's original claim of quiet trains has proven to be bogus. They are >> also a hazard which can lead to hearing loss. > > The first fiteen years of my life were spent in the shadown of > the Livonia Avenue Elevated (IRT) line in Brooklyn, followed by > three years of going to school not more than 50 yards from the > Third Avenue Elevated line in Manhattan (all in New York). > > You wanna' hear LOUD? The IRT's Low-V trains, the BMT's > Standards, and the Third ASvenue El trains were NOISY. BART is > whisper-quiet compared to them. You mean a EL made out of stell on jointed rail is noiser than a EL made out of concrete and welded rail, you have to be kidding me!
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