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Article #205Re: No More James Bannan
From: Rod Speed
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 17:38
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 17:38
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Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote > The Old Bloke wrote >> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> wrote >>> So you�ve just publicly admitted to installing an OEM Windows licence >>> for your own use, in contravention of Microsoft�s licensing terms? >> Maybe you should read up on Aus law. MS Terms and Conditions do not override Aus law. > One basic universal fact of copyright is that you cannot > have a copy of the copyrighted item without permission But the retail sale is what gives that permission. > (hence "copyright" = "right to copy"). The retail sale is what gives that permission. > The licence is what gives that permission. Nope, the retail sale does. There is no 'licence' with most copyrighted material like a book or a music CD or movie DVD etc etc etc. > So if you don't abide by the licence, then it doesn't apply. Wrong. With an OEM product, any purported agreement is between MS and the assembler of the hardware, not the end user. > Fine. Which means you have no permission. Wrong, as always. > Which means that your copy of the software is infringing copyright. QED. Wrong, as always.
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