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On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 02:14:54 +1200, GraB <grab@whatever.co.nz> wrote:

>On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 12:10:14 GMT, sales@___Email_Address_on_Web_site
>(SalesMart.com.au) wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 23:28:17 +1200, GraB <grab@whatever.co.nz> wrote:
>>
>>>I am considering a drive to add to my Lite-On SOHW-832S and am tossing
>>>up between the Lite-On 160P6S, or BenQ DW1650.  (Isn't the 160P6S
>>>based on the BenQ DW1650 with 'learning mode'?)  The only review I can
>>>find on the Lite-On drive was dated from February and new firmware
>>>could have changed things a lot since then.  I have seen good review
>>>of the BenQ.  My main requirement is good writing quality (speed not
>>>an issue) and good DVD reading ability.
>>>
>>>A friend wants to know whether he should consider the LG GSA-4166B or
>>>would he be better to consider either of the two above?  That would
>>>only get light use.
>>
>>LG 4166 are the lightscribe drives. They require special media to
>>print on top of the media using these drives.
>>
>>LIGHSCRIBE Printable media
>>- : (Printing Time)  
>>- : 1070TPI * 12cm Entire Disc less than 36 minutes  
>>- : 800TPI * 12cm Entire Disc less than 28 minutes  
>>- : 530TPI * 12cm Entire Disc less than 20 minutes  
>>
>>LightScribe printing is far to slow and not in the same class of a
>>print done on a CD capable printer. LightScribe printing takes far to
>>long to even bother with, where a CD Printer takes about a minute if
>>that.
>>
>>The LG H10 ones are the latest drives and might even be the cheapest
>>these days.
>>
>>I prefer the latest Sony DWG120A drives for all round ability.
>>For low PIE rates then the Pioneer are still the lowest but their
>>latest Pioneer 111D drives only burn 16X at 16X for about half the
>>brands of 16X speed media out there. The older Pioneer 109 drives burn
>>to more brands of 16X media.
>>
>>The LG drives have a higher PIE than the Sony DVD burners with good
>>quality media that is, not that it matters to much as all three are
>>well within the PIE standard of 280 on good quality media.
>>
>>What I like about the Sony drives is that the firmware can burn to
>>most 16X media at 16X. CDR burning is also faster on this drive even
>>set at 40X over the LG's or Pioneers at 40X. When I do a recording on
>>my Panasonic recorder it only takes a few minutes to transfer the
>>video to the hard drive via the Sony drive where the Pioneer or LG's
>>take a lot longer. Some may get slower or faster speeds depending on
>>the computer system.
>>
>>The Sony drives can also be used to test media like the BenQ drives
>>can. The latest BenQ are the 1670 models.
>
>Yes, OK about the LGs but what about the other two drives?  The BenQ
>1670 is newer but uses an inferior chip, from what I have heard and
>isn't as good as the 1650.
>
>On good quality media my old 832S achieves well under 280, mostly not
>exceeding 20 avg, so I guess the newer drives would be OK too?

PIE - Parity Inner Error.
PIF - Parity Inner Failure.
POF - Parity Outer Failure.
Jitter percentage.

Sony DWG120A - Firmware MYR3
Aurora DVD-R 8X.
PIE AV - 7.16
PIE MAX - 30

Pioneer 110D - Firmware 1.39
Aurora DVD-R 8X.
PIE AV - 0.97
PIE MAX - 13

As you can see the Pioneer have lower PIE but really its hardly worth
worrying about as its well below the PIE standard for DVD media of
280. The Sony gives me DVD-RAM read/write support and is very fast as
moving video to the harddrive of the computer and its CDR burning is
so much faster so for me its the Sony over the Pioneer.

Pioneer 110D drives do have firmware 1.41 that has been out for some
time. Firmware 1.39 works fine so I have no need to move up.

Having a look at a supplier that does sell the BenQ 1650 drives is
that the retail kit boxes are the same price as the OEM's.
BenQ are one of the very few drives that checks for everything in
PIE/PIF/POF/Jitter.

I own the BenQ 1640 and hardly ever use it because its not as good as
the other drives. I may look at the 1650 but it doesn't even support
DVD-RAM which most people want with their drives.

Anyway here is the info on the BenQ 1650 drives.
=========
BenQ 1650
Features such as BenQ's exclusive Write Right Technology ensures every
bit of your data is written at the best possible quality while the
Dual Cooling System (DCS) accelerates the circulation inside the drive
and redirects the heat flow out of the steel housing. BenQ's latest
exclusive SolidBurn Technology now further enhances writing
performance and speed while producing the best possible quality as a
result. 

Fast reading and writing speeds and a generous software bundle tops
off this already impressive package
DVD+R speed 16X Writing, 8X Rewriting, 16X Reading DVD-R speed 16X
Writing, 6X Rewriting, 16X Reading Double Layer DVD+R speed 8X Writing
Double Layer DVD-R speed 4x Writing CD speed 48X Writing,32X
Rewriting,48X Reading Powerful and user friendly burning tool BenQ
exclusive QSuite software BenQ exclusive SolidBurn Technology 
=========

If I was buying a new drive I'd still go for the Sony DWG120A models.
Each to their own.

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