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Article #654Re: "If there's a key learning for us, we can't have free software..."
From: bt
Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2001 00:45
Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2001 00:45
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They really do live in a fantasy world, don't they ? On Fri, 09 Nov 2001 11:14:10 +1300, "Adam Warner" <usenet@consulting.net.nz> wrote: >Said Steve Ballmer at Microsoft' shareholder meeting: > > If there's a key learning for us, we can't have free software, it's > kind of inconsistent with the goals of most people in the room. > >http://www.microsoft.com/msft/speech/smeet/shareholdermeeting01.htm > >Bill Gates also took credit for the open source revolution: > > Let me start out, really the reason that you see open source there at > all is because we came in and said there should be a platform that's > identical with millions and millions of machines, and the bios of that > should be open to everybody to use, and all the extensibility should be > there. And so it was very predictable that once we had gotten the PC > going, and going and gotten hundreds of millions of machines out there, > that it had always been sort of free software and the universities > would flourish and there would be more of that. > >And the GPL is singled out as breaking a virtuous cycle: > > In fact, there's a very virtuous cycle where people do free things, > some people find that adequate, sometimes companies will take that work > and turn it into commercial products, those companies will hire people, > pay taxes. And so you see the free software and the commercial software > existing together. > > There is a particular approach that breaks the cycle called the GPL > that is not worth getting into today, but I don't think there is much > awareness about how so-called free software foundations designed that > to break that cycle. > >Regards, >Adam Brendan -- Join the Electronic Frontier Foundation - the advocate of the people in Cyberspace - http://www.eff.org . ..."I've missed your intelligent and well thought out posts" - Brett Roberts, OEM Manager, Microsoft NZ Email: corum.usenet@myrealbox (dot com). No Timewasters. No UCE. My comments are IMHO, IIRC, FYI, and Copyright.
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