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Re: The gun debate and aus.politics

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From: Nathan Schmidt
Date: Fri, 07 Feb 1997 00:00
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Paul wrote:

> How would you respond to the act that comparing Vancouver and Seattle,
> cities practically identical from just about every point of view
> (climate and economic comparisons, even favourite TV and dario stations)
> the only significant difference is the homicide rate, which is MUCH
> higher in Seattle? The only possible explanation for this goes by the
> gun control legislation, which is much more conservative in Canada.
> Weapons ARE permitted but not just over the counter to anyone like in
> the USA...

Vancouver and Seattle may be very similar, even down to the proportion
of their population made up of non-white minorities.  That's where the 
difference begins - Vancouver's predominantly asian minorities have a
very low homicide rate, while Seattle's black and hispanic minorities
have a very high one.  The white majorities have very similar homicide
rate, though, as you note, firearms availability is greater in Seattle.

Sorry, I don't have the references at hand - they may be contained in the
excellent book "The Samurai, the Mountie and the Cowboy" (the author of 
which whose name escapes me at the moment), but I'm sure someone in the 
long list of crossposted newsgroups has the hard facts at hand.  This
Vancouver-Seattle comparison is a very popular misconception that alot of
people seem to hold.

> Paul Goyette, very happy NOT to be an American. I'd rather be
> Australian, French, British, Dutch, Belgian,...(the list is pretty long)
> than an American.

Nathan Schmidt, happy to be a Canadian, but wishing we had a second
amendment...
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From: Nathan Schmidt <schmidt@civl.canterbury.ac.nz>
Subject: Re: The gun debate and aus.politics
Date: 1997/02/07
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