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Quoth www@freenet.co.nz (WeeWillyWonka) in
news:41a17d5a.4761121@news.iconz.co.nz: 

> On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 17:40:59 +0000 (UTC), Tom Betz
> <spammers_lie@pobox.com> wrote:
>>See also
>><http://saudiembassy.net/2000News/News/ForDetail.asp?cIndex=2558>
>>and
>><http://saudiembassy.net/2000News/News/AraDetail.asp?cIndex=2588>
>>. 
>>
>>It's quite clear to me.  It's right there on the web site.  The
>>damnable Saudis didn't even bother to take it down after the
>>Weekly Standard report exposed it. 
> 
> If read them, but it's still not clear.  First of all, these
> pages were written in 2000, pre 9/11.  

What does that have to do with anything?  I was comparing Saudi
Arabia's long-standing practice of rewarding the families of
Palestinian suicide bombers with Saddam Hussein's
johnny-come-lately practice of doing the same thing.  If it's
justification for invading Iraq, it's justification for invading
Saudi Arabia.  You wanted evidence to support the Weekly Standard
story about their practice, and I provided same. 

> Secondly, the word
> "martyr" seems to mean "those shot by Israeli bullets", and
> suicide bombers are not explicitly mentioned,

It's mentioned explicitly elsewhere on the web site.  In this
excerpt from a "Meet The Press" interview with Tim Russert, Prince
Bandar bin Sultan bin Abdulaziz admits as much. 

From <http://saudiembassy.net/2004News/Statements/TransDetail.asp?cIndex=396>:

    	MR. RUSSERT: Prince, the former general counsel of the
    Department of Treasury, David Aufhauser, a professional, a
    lawyer, testifying under oath before the Senate Judiciary
    Committee: 

    	QUESTION: "With regard to the trail of money and whether it
    leads in some cases to Saudi Arabia?" 	
    	AUFHAUSER: "In many cases, it is at the epicenter."
    	
    	QUESTION: "And does that trail of money also show money going
    to al Qaeda?" 	
    	AUFHAUSER: "Yes."
    	
    	QUESTION: "Is the money from Saudi Arabia a significant
    source of funding for terrorism generally?" 	
    	AUFHAUSER: "Yes, for principally al Qaeda, but many other
    recipients as well." 	

    	This was the scene in April 2002, when your King, a
    state-sponsored telethon -- and look at these pictures --
    raised over $92 million, and the money was for, quote,
    "Palestinian martyrs -- suicide bombers who blew up Israeli
    children, school buses, restaurants." Here's the Treasury
    Department of the United States saying that Saudi money is
    funding al-Qaeda. You're having telethons raising money for
    Palestine's suicide bombers and you sit here and say, How
    could people say these terrible things about us? 

    	PRINCE BANDAR: Yes, I say that very easily, because nothing
    stands still. If you are saying before 9/11 we didn't have our
    things together, yes, but not with you. Look what 9/11 is
    showing. However -- 

    	MR. RUSSERT: This was April of 2002.
    	
    	PRINCE BANDAR: I understand. Since then -- since 9/11, when
    after we recovered from the shock, we looked at all our
    procedures, and we have come through in -- and we are proud of
    it. 

Bandar admitted that as late as 2002, the Saudi Royal Family was
still publicly raising money for the families of Palestinian
suicide bombers. 

Do you really think they aren't still doing the same thing privately?

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