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Re: proposal for IAC.NZ

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From: Andy Linton
Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1992 02:20
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In article <1992Aug3.133259.9804@waikato.ac.nz>, john@waikato.ac.nz (John Houlker) writes:
|> We have had a request to add a new `top level' NZ domain within the
|> DNS, namely
|> 
|> 	IAC.NZ
|> 
|> meaning the New Zealand International Antarctic Centre - this is
|> for various organisations based at the IAC in Christchurch that
|> participate in Antarctic programs.  These evidently include
|> operations from a number of different countries, so they have
|> proposed a naming scheme of the form
|> 
|> 	host.org.IAC.NZ
|> 
|> They are keen that the New Zealand flavour is in the name, but
|> also that the different national program components are represented.
|> 
|> This follows the approach we have had so far in that entries within
|> NZ (with the exception of ARCHIE.NZ) represent groupings of
|> particular common types (here we have the "Antarctic Research
|> Organisation" type, which might be compared with CRI.NZ).  It is a
|> little unsual, however, since it also corresponds to a single site
|> (all-be-it a multi-organisation site).
|> 
|> Does anyone have any strong opinions about the creation of such a
|> domain?  Should we create - as discussed earlier - something like a
|> domain for research organisations (more general than CRI.NZ) and
|> use this to locate the IAC?   The research domain names suggested
|> before included such as RI.NZ, RES.NZ, so we would get something like:
|> 
|> 	IAC.RES.NZ

Well I never saw discussion on this! Where was it discussed?

It would have been nice to see a discussion like this before we had CRI.NZ
foisted on us. I think we've already got a perfectly good set of domains to
cover both cases. The CRI's are commercial organisations and are defined as such
- they should have gone in CO.NZ. What happens in future if they get sold off?
If that was a bit too much for them then the alternative was ORG.NZ which is
where the International Antarctic Centre should go. I appreciate that the CRI
battle is lost - there was enough aggro when then changed their name over from
DSIR.GOVT.NZ.

If we go down this track you can throw away the secondary level domains, such as
AC.NZ, CO.NZ etc., as you will get requests from organisations that feel they
don't quite fit in. e.g.

	At VUW we undertake research, have commercial interests and we teach.
	We're special and we should be:

	VUW.NZ

I'm not sure I really have a problem with us going down that route as long as we
accept that we're only going to have a largish flat name space inside NZ but
lets do it as a result of a conscious decision and not just drift into it.

I had a series of conversations with a guy from Shell Oil a few months ago who
wanted the name SHELL.NZ set aside. I suggested we had a policy that meant he
should be SHELL.CO.NZ and he didn't like that too much. I suspect that if we
go down the IAC.NZ track that we'll find this sort of thing harder. I know I
won't argue with him about it - I'll just forward a request for SHELL.NZ!

I would urge you all to think about this hard at this point about this. We might
get away with this one but one more exception could well spell the end of any
structure we currently have. I urge the use of:

	IAC.ORG.NZ
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