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Re: Oh no, CO#2 headed for Ohio! Where is Rev Neimoller?

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From: Tim Wilson
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 02:34
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In article <1993Jan22.143428.3334@dvorak.amd.com>
tdbear@dvorak.amd.com (Thomas D. Barrett) writes: 

   In article <C150C1.Eru@unix.amherst.edu> twpierce@unix.amherst.edu
   (Tim Pierce) writes: 
   >Then when someone makes that mistake, we should correct them.  Not
   >acquiesce and pretend that "civil rights" means something other than
   >what it does.

   THAT'S the mistake that they made in CO... by the time they tried to
   correct the mistake being slung out by the Nazis, it was too late.  It
   has to be a concerned effort from day one.  I think this is especially
   important for any publicized rallies and demonstrations.  "Gay Rights"
   is short and sweet, but doesn't explain anything.  The outsiders and
   fence sitters don't seem to equate "Gay Rights" properly with
   "recognition and protection of equal rights to gays and lesbians."
   Some tend to think it means that we want the right to do the nasty
   anyplace and anytime we want.

The mistake in Colorado was made by a majority of the people who voted
in the referendum.

Sure it's important for us to define our own terms and not to let
those who'd deny us what's rightfully ours define those terms for us.
But that doesn't mean giving up our language and its historical uses.
This "gay rights" phrase has been around for a while.  Its meaning is
simple and clear:  gay people have rights, too.  Getting "civil
rights" out there has some utility because of the great struggle of
the fifities and sixties.  It might not hurt to appropriate it.
Pairing up the two, "gay rights" and "civil rights," might be
effective, and it's a hell of a lot less verbose than "equal rights
for lesbians, bisexuals, gays, etc."

And what is it about the nasty that makes it so bad to do it most
anywhere and anytime, anyway?  If we're ever gonna have our rights,
those people who aren't us are gonna have to adjust to the fact that
we actually touch each other's so-called private parts.  And have a
good time doing it. 

--
Tim Wilson
Internet:  tim@ear-ache.mit.edu	
UUCP:  mit-eddie!mit-athena!tim
Bad Colorado.  No business.
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Subject: Re: Oh no, CO#2 headed for Ohio!  Where is Rev Neimoller?
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