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Article #513Re: CompuServe continues to suspend 5 newsgroups
From: Nightwolf
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 00:00
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 00:00
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On 16 Feb 1996, Sara Ross wrote:
> : --
> : John L. Wilkerson Jr... jwilkers@freenet.columbus.oh.us
>
> : "Political Correctness is for mindless sheep.. Speak up how
> ^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> : _you_ want, not how others say you should"
>
Right on Brother!!!
>
> It's interesting that the facists of the Rush Limgaugh ilk always harp on
> PC as evil because it doesn't match their politics. But Political is only
> half of the term. Politics may change but those of us with actual moral
> values--as opposed to the "POLITICally correct" version--know that saying
> things that hurt others is wrong, ie not correct.
>
I find this statement of yours to be extremely offensive,
because it is so ignorantly pollyannish! Do remember that fascism
is not limited to either the traditional "left" or the traditional
"right." It is also wrong to assume that anyone who's moral values
may be different from yours is automatically lacking in any moral
values. Please do use your own stated "logic," and stop making
such offensively stupid remarks!
> Of course, anything can be taken too far and I understand the frustration
> with the lengths some people go to. However, "Saying what *you* want, not
> what others say you should" does not now--nor has it ever--fit society.
>
Perhaps not as you see it. You are always entitled to
your own misguided opinions. Please do respect the opinions of
those who probably are your intellectual superiors. If nothing
else, please do remember that those of us who prefer to do our
own thinking will actively resist those of you who believe that
everyone's thinking should be done by others. I refuse to ever
be a slave!
> Remember, not so long ago, saying what you want could get you killed.
>
This sadly is still true in many if not most parts of
this planet. Earlier today, I was reading about some of the
terrorism which is happening, right now, against human freedom
all over this planet. Read the Digital Freedom Network home
page, provided by idt.net, to have your eyes opened wider.
> Free speech, like all rights, contains a healthy dose of responsibility as
> well.
>
This is a point upon which we do agree. What I strongly
oppose, is what appears to be your belief that people should ever
be legally "protected" from living in a world where other people
really do have different beliefs, values, and lifestyles. You do
offend me, when you claim to only oppose that speech which might
happen to offend another. After all, no matter what you say or
do in life there is another person who may not happen to approve.
Where do you draw the line?
> Interesting, though, that no one has attempted to turn PC into a law.
> .
What do you happen to call the whole ignorant bullshit
about so-called "hate speech"? For that matter, what do you call
racial preference quota systems? Especially, when they are given
the offensively patronizing name "affirmative action"? what is
ever so wrong with saying that all individuals should be free to
rise or fall in life based upon their own individual abilities,
instead of being officially categorized based upon who their
ancestors may have been? That is true "affirmative action"!
Nightwolf
N-wolf@cris.com
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