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Re: CompuServe continues to suspend 5 newsgroups

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From: Nightwolf
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 00:00
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On 16 Feb 1996, Sara Ross wrote:

> : -- 
> :  John L. Wilkerson Jr...    jwilkers@freenet.columbus.oh.us
> 
> :       "Political Correctness is for mindless sheep.. Speak up how 
>                    ^^^^^^^^^^^   
> 
> : _you_ want, not how others say you should"
> 
        Right on Brother!!!

> 
> It's interesting that the facists of the Rush Limgaugh ilk always harp on
> PC as evil because it doesn't match their politics.  But Political is only
> half of the term.  Politics may change but those of us with actual moral
> values--as opposed to the "POLITICally correct" version--know that saying
> things that hurt others is wrong, ie not correct.
> 
        I find this statement of yours to be extremely offensive, 
because it is so ignorantly pollyannish!  Do remember that fascism 
is not limited to either the traditional "left" or the traditional 
"right."  It is also wrong to assume that anyone who's moral values 
may be different from yours is automatically lacking in any moral 
values.  Please do use your own stated "logic," and stop making 
such offensively stupid remarks!  

> Of course, anything can be taken too far and I understand the frustration
> with the lengths some people go to.  However, "Saying what *you* want, not
> what others say you should" does not now--nor has it ever--fit society.
> 
        Perhaps not as you see it.  You are always entitled to 
your own misguided opinions.  Please do respect the opinions of 
those who probably are your intellectual superiors.  If nothing 
else, please do remember that those of us who prefer to do our 
own thinking will actively resist those of you who believe that 
everyone's thinking should be done by others.  I refuse to ever 
be a slave!  

> Remember, not so long ago, saying what you want could get you killed.
> 
        This sadly is still true in many if not most parts of 
this planet.  Earlier today, I was reading about some of the 
terrorism which is happening, right now, against human freedom 
all over this planet.  Read the Digital Freedom Network home 
page, provided by idt.net, to have your eyes opened wider.  

> Free speech, like all rights, contains a healthy dose of responsibility as
> well.  
> 
        This is a point upon which we do agree.  What I strongly 
oppose, is what appears to be your belief that people should ever 
be legally "protected" from living in a world where other people 
really do have different beliefs, values, and lifestyles.  You do 
offend me, when you claim to only oppose that speech which might 
happen to offend another.  After all, no matter what you say or 
do in life there is another person who may not happen to approve.  
Where do you draw the line?  

> Interesting, though, that no one has attempted to turn PC into a law.
> .

        What do you happen to call the whole ignorant bullshit 
about so-called "hate speech"?  For that matter, what do you call 
racial preference quota systems?  Especially, when they are given 
the offensively patronizing name "affirmative action"?  what is 
ever so wrong with saying that all individuals should be free to 
rise or fall in life based upon their own individual abilities, 
instead of being officially categorized based upon who their 
ancestors may have been?  That is true "affirmative action"!  


Nightwolf

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From: Nightwolf <N-wolf@cris.com>
Subject: Re: CompuServe continues to suspend 5 newsgroups
Date: 1996/02/28
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