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Jon wrote:


> The answer is, Bush botched the war on Terrorism

Is that why we have had ZERO attacks on US soil since 911???

Well scum-boy...is it???

FUCK YOU!

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On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 05:40:42 GMT, Uncle Samuel <Stars@Stripes.USA>
wrote:

>Jon wrote:
>
>
>> The answer is, Bush botched the war on Terrorism
>
>Is that why we have had ZERO attacks on US soil since 911???
>
>Well scum-boy...is it???
>
>FUCK YOU!

...and well reasoned, I might add.

It's all part of the plan.  They realized "They hate us for our
freedom" was a bit hollow, and so they set out to get some real
substantial reasons for terrorist to hate the US.

...once you have an enemy with real grievances, and a real
identity...then you can deal with them effectively.

It's a process called "defining the enemy".

It's all going according to plan.

On 1 Nov 2004 21:17:37 -0800, master_blaster100@lycos.com (Jon) wrote:

>You guys are missing the point.
>
>The question was, even if Bush isn't a conservative, and is "spending
>money like a man with a week to live," why would Kerry be better?
>
>The answer is, Bush botched the war on Terrorism; he invaded
>Afghanistan to get bin Laden, and failed to do so.
>
>Kerry couldn't *possibly* do worse-- Bush screwed up.

Which goes to military strategy, which the President does NOT do, and
should not do.  Are you saying that Kerry would personally be laying
out the specifics of battle plans?  If so, then we would have more
problems than just a French poodle in the White House.



>But the main problem with Mr. Bush is that he screwed up the economy. 
>He lost jobs-- an amazing feat that no president has done since the
>depression up until Bush.  With the economy on a downturn, he
>*increased* government spending.
>

Gosh, Bush orchestrated the bombing of the World Trade?  Bunch of
conspiracy kooks have no place running the country.  Wasn't it Kerry
and the Clinton adminstration that passed NAFTA?




>Jonah Goldberg:
>(http://www.washtimes.com/commentary/20030718-040025-1117r.htm )
>"Among conservative journalists and activists, the disappointment in
>the Bush Administration's, and the GOP congressional leadership's,
>domestic policies is mounting daily.
>    "On free trade, the president has proved less reliable than -
>shudder - Bill Clinton. His acquiescence (i.e. capitulation) on
>Medicare has been total, refusing to fight for significant free market
>reforms while agreeing to shovel hundreds of billions of taxpayer
>dollars for new entitlements.
>    "In general, Bush has been spending money like a man with a week
>to live. The GOP-led Congress deserves some blame, too. But even when
>they overspend above his overspending, Bush refuses to use his veto
>power. "
>
>The Republican led congress deserves more than "some" blame-- but
>that's only to be expected.  When the administration and the congress
>are from the same party, it's pig city on the budget.
>
>Or,  
>http://www.fff.org/freedom/fd0312b.asp

Bush's main problem is that he lost track of the conservative agenda
to go on a big-government spending spree.

The underlying problem is that nobody was there to stop him-- when the
president and the congress are from the same party,  nobody's guarding
the treasury-- they just spend and spend.

Since we have a Republican congress, what we need is a Democratic
president.


master_blaster100@lycos.com (Jon) wrote in message news:<e1c97c16.0411012117.38a203ef@posting.google.com>...
> You guys are missing the point.
> 
> The question was, even if Bush isn't a conservative, and is "spending
> money like a man with a week to live," why would Kerry be better?
> 
> The answer is, Bush botched the war on Terrorism; he invaded
> Afghanistan to get bin Laden, and failed to do so.
> 
> Kerry couldn't *possibly* do worse-- Bush screwed up.
> 
> But the main problem with Mr. Bush is that he screwed up the economy. 
> He lost jobs-- an amazing feat that no president has done since the
> depression up until Bush.  With the economy on a downturn, he
> *increased* government spending.
> 
> Jonah Goldberg:
> (http://www.washtimes.com/commentary/20030718-040025-1117r.htm )

> "Among conservative journalists and activists, the disappointment in
> the Bush Administration's, and the GOP congressional leadership's,
> domestic policies is mounting daily.
>     "On free trade, the president has proved less reliable than -
> shudder - Bill Clinton. His acquiescence (i.e. capitulation) on
> Medicare has been total, refusing to fight for significant free market
> reforms while agreeing to shovel hundreds of billions of taxpayer
> dollars for new entitlements.
>     "In general, Bush has been spending money like a man with a week
> to live. The GOP-led Congress deserves some blame, too. But even when
> they overspend above his overspending, Bush refuses to use his veto
> power. "
> 
> The Republican led congress deserves more than "some" blame-- but
> that's only to be expected.  When the administration and the congress
> are from the same party, it's pig city on the budget.
> 
> Or,  
> http://www.fff.org/freedom/fd0312b.asp

FranklinJefferson wrote:

> Bush's main problem is that he lost track of the conservative agenda
John Kerry Says Al Qaeda Not That Bad

February 11, 2004


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
by Bob Newman

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

In an alarming assessment of the dangers America faces from al Qaeda, 
Democratic presidential hopeful John Kerry, upon being asked in a debate 
on January 29th if President Bush was overstating the terrorist threat, 
said, �"I think there has been an exaggeration. They are misleading all 
Americans in a profound way."

Kerry seems to have forgotten the horrific events of 9-11-2001, or 
perhaps in his staggering wealth he simply doesn�t give a damn. Kerry 
loved the disgusting insult the cover of his book, The New Soldier, 
delivered to the thousands of United States Marines and sailors who died 
on Iwo Jima (the cover has protestors mocking the raising of the flag on 
Mount Suribachi and holding the U.S. flag upside down). He marched with 
protestors carrying Viet Cong flags while the Viet Cong killed American 
soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines. He supported North Vietnam�s use 
of American POWs as bargaining chips in peace negotiations. He remains a 
vocal supporter of the traitorous �Hanoi Jane� Fonda, who encouraged the 
torture of American POWs. And with other radical leftists, John Kerry 
threw medals he implied belonged to him at a statue at the Capitol, when 
in reality they were not his at all (he later admitted he wasn�t sure 
whose medals those were). He even claimed to have personal knowledge of 
numerous American servicemen raping, pillaging, plundering and murdering 
across South Vietnam, which he later admitted to having heard as hearsay 
from fellow supporters of North Vietnam.

North Vietnamese war strategists have repeatedly stated that the 
communist insurgency was able to defeat the U.S. military in large part 
because of the motivation and hope the North Vietnamese Army and Viet 
Cong received from U.S. �war� protestors.

Kerry sees nothing wrong with any of this.

Now John Kerry, who according to the North Vietnamese gave them aid and 
comfort in time of war, says al Qaeda isn�t all that bad and that 
President Bush is exaggerating the danger we are in.

I wonder if he would feel that way had his family been killed in the 
attacks of September 11th, 2001.

http://mensnewsdaily.com/archive/m-n/newman/2004/newman021104.htm
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Horace Brownbag wrote:

> On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 05:40:42 GMT, Uncle Samuel <Stars@Stripes.USA>
> wrote:
> 
> 
>>Jon wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>The answer is, Bush botched the war on Terrorism
>>
>>Is that why we have had ZERO attacks on US soil since 911???
>>
>>Well scum-boy...is it???
>>
>>FUCK YOU!
> 
> 
> ...and well reasoned, I might add.


You damned traitor, all America will remmeber YOU stumped for Osama!

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Horace Brownbag <hbrownbag@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<dceeo0d76fg15t4gghcp7ce0capis254im@4ax.com>...
> On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 05:40:42 GMT, Uncle Samuel <Stars@Stripes.USA>
> wrote:
> 
> >Jon wrote:
> >
> >
> >> The answer is, Bush botched the war on Terrorism
> >
> >Is that why we have had ZERO attacks on US soil since 911???
> >
> >Well scum-boy...is it???
> >
> >FUCK YOU!
> 
> ...and well reasoned, I might add.
> 
> It's all part of the plan.  They realized "They hate us for our
> freedom" was a bit hollow, and so they set out to get some real
> substantial reasons for terrorist to hate the US.
> 
> ...once you have an enemy with real grievances, and a real
> identity...then you can deal with them effectively.
> 
> It's a process called "defining the enemy".
> 
> It's all going according to plan.

ever notice that without enemies, republicons are reduced to snake shit?

kissmy butt wrote:

> Horace Brownbag <hbrownbag@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<dceeo0d76fg15t4gghcp7ce0capis254im@4ax.com>...
> 
>>On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 05:40:42 GMT, Uncle Samuel <Stars@Stripes.USA>
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Jon wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>The answer is, Bush botched the war on Terrorism
>>>
>>>Is that why we have had ZERO attacks on US soil since 911???
>>>
>>>Well scum-boy...is it???
>>>
>>>FUCK YOU!
>>
>>...and well reasoned, I might add.
>>
>>It's all part of the plan.  They realized "They hate us for our
>>freedom" was a bit hollow, and so they set out to get some real
>>substantial reasons for terrorist to hate the US.
>>
>>...once you have an enemy with real grievances, and a real
>>identity...then you can deal with them effectively.
>>
>>It's a process called "defining the enemy".
>>
>>It's all going according to plan.
> 
> 
> ever notice that without enemies, republicons are reduced to snake shit?


Ever notice AMERICA has enemies...


http://mensnewsdaily.com/archive/m-n/newman/2004/newman021104.htm

John Kerry Says Al Qaeda Not That Bad

February 11, 2004


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
by Bob Newman

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

In an alarming assessment of the dangers America faces from al Qaeda, 
Democratic presidential hopeful John Kerry, upon being asked in a debate 
on January 29th if President Bush was overstating the terrorist threat, 
said, �"I think there has been an exaggeration. They are misleading all 
Americans in a profound way."

Kerry seems to have forgotten the horrific events of 9-11-2001, or 
perhaps in his staggering wealth he simply doesn�t give a damn. Kerry 
loved the disgusting insult the cover of his book, The New Soldier, 
delivered to the thousands of United States Marines and sailors who died 
on Iwo Jima (the cover has protestors mocking the raising of the flag on 
Mount Suribachi and holding the U.S. flag upside down). He marched with 
protestors carrying Viet Cong flags while the Viet Cong killed American 
soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines. He supported North Vietnam�s use 
of American POWs as bargaining chips in peace negotiations. He remains a 
vocal supporter of the traitorous �Hanoi Jane� Fonda, who encouraged the 
torture of American POWs. And with other radical leftists, John Kerry 
threw medals he implied belonged to him at a statue at the Capitol, when 
in reality they were not his at all (he later admitted he wasn�t sure 
whose medals those were). He even claimed to have personal knowledge of 
numerous American servicemen raping, pillaging, plundering and murdering 
across South Vietnam, which he later admitted to having heard as hearsay 
from fellow supporters of North Vietnam.

North Vietnamese war strategists have repeatedly stated that the 
communist insurgency was able to defeat the U.S. military in large part 
because of the motivation and hope the North Vietnamese Army and Viet 
Cong received from U.S. �war� protestors.

Kerry sees nothing wrong with any of this.

Now John Kerry, who according to the North Vietnamese gave them aid and 
comfort in time of war, says al Qaeda isn�t all that bad and that 
President Bush is exaggerating the danger we are in.

I wonder if he would feel that way had his family been killed in the 
attacks of September 11th, 2001.
Al Qaeda has butchered thousands of Americans and would kill every 
American man, woman and child on earth if they could.


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Uncle Samuel wrote:
> kissmy butt wrote:
> 
>> Horace Brownbag <hbrownbag@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
>> news:<dceeo0d76fg15t4gghcp7ce0capis254im@4ax.com>...
>>
>>> On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 05:40:42 GMT, Uncle Samuel <Stars@Stripes.USA>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Jon wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> The answer is, Bush botched the war on Terrorism
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Is that why we have had ZERO attacks on US soil since 911???
>>>>
>>>> Well scum-boy...is it???
>>>>
>>>> FUCK YOU!
>>>
>>>
>>> ...and well reasoned, I might add.
>>>
>>> It's all part of the plan.  They realized "They hate us for our
>>> freedom" was a bit hollow, and so they set out to get some real
>>> substantial reasons for terrorist to hate the US.
>>>
>>> ...once you have an enemy with real grievances, and a real
>>> identity...then you can deal with them effectively.
>>>
>>> It's a process called "defining the enemy".
>>>
>>> It's all going according to plan.
>>
>>
>>
>> ever notice that without enemies, republicons are reduced to snake shit?
> 
> 
> 
> Ever notice AMERICA has enemies...
> 
> 

Yeah, you are one of them!

You and Bush play right into Osama's hands and you love it!  You are the 
enemy, Spammy.

Bush's Last Days wrote:

> You and Bush play right into Osama's hands 

Drop dead you DeomoCrap traitor.


http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_110104/content/stop_the_tape_2.guest.html

  I just want to leave you with one thought here again on the Osama bin 
Laden tape. Whatever, whatever the liberals in this country think or say 
-- and the two are not mutually exclusive, by the way -- a John Kerry 
victory after the bin Laden tape is going to give Osama bin Laden 
bragging rights across the Middle East. You want to talk about creating 
a whole new generation of terrorists? After this bin Laden tape, if 
Kerry goes out and wins this election, bin Laden's going to be able to 
flex his muscles and claim credit for it throughout the Middle East, and 
they will have done it without firing a shot. Imagine what they will be 
able to do when they fire the next shots!

If they think they're able to spin and swing this election to John Kerry 
with a tape from bin Laden -- and they will; make no mistake about it. 
Because in this tape bin Laden is threatening individual states for 
their security, and he's echoing Democratic Party talking points that 
John Kerry himself has used. You haven't seen the stuff hit the fan yet 
until we see if Kerry wins this and you watch the celebrations in the 
Middle East with Osama reaching heights exalted heretofore unimagined. 
This guy is going to be the closest thing to a living god that region 
will ever have had simply because of this tape, and they're going to 
spin it over there as having been the deciding factor in our 
presidential electio, if Kerry wins. Mark my words, folks.



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Uncle Samuel wrote:

> Bush's Last Days wrote:
> 
>> You and Bush play right into Osama's hands 
> 
> 
> Drop dead you DeomoCrap traitor.
> 
> 
> http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_110104/content/stop_the_tape_2.guest.html 
> 

Limbaugh is an al Qaeda plant.

Bush's Last Days wrote:


http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_110104/content/stop_the_tape_2.guest.html

  I just want to leave you with one thought here again on the Osama bin 
Laden tape. Whatever, whatever the liberals in this country think or say 
-- and the two are not mutually exclusive, by the way -- a John Kerry 
victory after the bin Laden tape is going to give Osama bin Laden 
bragging rights across the Middle East. You want to talk about creating 
a whole new generation of terrorists? After this bin Laden tape, if 
Kerry goes out and wins this election, bin Laden's going to be able to 
flex his muscles and claim credit for it throughout the Middle East, and 
they will have done it without firing a shot. Imagine what they will be 
able to do when they fire the next shots!

If they think they're able to spin and swing this election to John Kerry 
with a tape from bin Laden -- and they will; make no mistake about it. 
Because in this tape bin Laden is threatening individual states for 
their security, and he's echoing Democratic Party talking points that 
John Kerry himself has used. You haven't seen the stuff hit the fan yet 
until we see if Kerry wins this and you watch the celebrations in the 
Middle East with Osama reaching heights exalted heretofore unimagined. 
This guy is going to be the closest thing to a living god that region 
will ever have had simply because of this tape, and they're going to 
spin it over there as having been the deciding factor in our 
presidential electio, if Kerry wins. Mark my words, folks.




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Bush's Last Days wrote:

> Uncle Samuel wrote:
> 
>> Bush's Last Days wrote:
>>
>>> You and Bush play right into Osama's hands 
>>
>>
>>
>> Drop dead you DeomoCrap traitor.
>>
>>
>> http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_110104/content/stop_the_tape_2.guest.html 
>>
> 
> 
> Limbaugh is 



http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_110104/content/stop_the_tape_2.guest.html

  I just want to leave you with one thought here again on the Osama bin 
Laden tape. Whatever, whatever the liberals in this country think or say 
-- and the two are not mutually exclusive, by the way -- a John Kerry 
victory after the bin Laden tape is going to give Osama bin Laden 
bragging rights across the Middle East. You want to talk about creating 
a whole new generation of terrorists? After this bin Laden tape, if 
Kerry goes out and wins this election, bin Laden's going to be able to 
flex his muscles and claim credit for it throughout the Middle East, and 
they will have done it without firing a shot. Imagine what they will be 
able to do when they fire the next shots!

If they think they're able to spin and swing this election to John Kerry 
with a tape from bin Laden -- and they will; make no mistake about it. 
Because in this tape bin Laden is threatening individual states for 
their security, and he's echoing Democratic Party talking points that 
John Kerry himself has used. You haven't seen the stuff hit the fan yet 
until we see if Kerry wins this and you watch the celebrations in the 
Middle East with Osama reaching heights exalted heretofore unimagined. 
This guy is going to be the closest thing to a living god that region 
will ever have had simply because of this tape, and they're going to 
spin it over there as having been the deciding factor in our 
presidential electio, if Kerry wins. Mark my words, folks.





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