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Article #70Re: PEI Bicycle Helmet Zealots Thwarted
From: Avery Burdett
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 00:00
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 00:00
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Ken Bognar (kbognar@direct.ca) writes: > Avery Burdett wrote: >> >> Ken Bognar (kbognar@direct.ca) writes: >> (snip) >> > There is a big difference. Are you in favor of helmets for pedestrians? >> > I didn't think so. Your argument makes no sense. Try convincing anybody >> > to wear a helmet when walking. I don't care if there are more accidents >> > per hour, per mile, per interaction in other activities, I don't have >> > any facts on those. I'm just in favor of helmet laws for cyclists >> > because those other activities are very hard to regulate. I'll let you >> > chase down the rock climber without a helmet. >> >> So you don't really care about reducing head injuries among the >> population. You just want your hatred of cyclists who don't >> look like you expressed through repressive laws. >> >> -- >> Avery Burdett >> Ottawa, Ontario > > Well Avery, you seem to think that walking is really dangerous don't > you. Show me stats on how many accidents happen per hour of walking as > compared to cycling and the extent of those injuries. Like most others > here you'll probably fix the stats or take some obscure study with the > pedestrians all walking on the roadways. You prove my point. You say (above) you don't care about statistics and don't have any facts in coming to your opinion, and then want me to provide them. Suffice to say that in Ontario, for every cyclist killed there are 5 pedestrians and 15 motor vehicle occupants killed. Most of them from head injuries (just like the injuries received by the Redwings' player and therapist). So if we are to believe that helmets save lives (which of course those who have studied this issue don't) as you suggest below, then clapping helmets on every ped and motorist as well as cyclists would increase the possibility of reducing all head injury deaths by a factor as high as 20 to 1. Despite this you are saying you only want to force cyclists to wear crash helmets. Now tell me it's not cyclist-hating when you only want to use repressive laws against one group when, based on your (faulty) theory, the possibilities of reducing total head injury deaths among all road users is greater. > Why would I have hatred of cyclists who don't look like me. No one does. > I just don't want to pay for someone's hospital bills for an injury that > could have been prevented. I also don't want to see any of my friends or > family die or get injured from a preventable accident. Luckily they > already have enough brains to wear helmets. Hey maybe if you aren't > smart enough to wear head protection we don't need you on the planet > anyways right. One of the persons who made a similar statement in a posting to a rec.bicycles.soc himself was killed on his bike about six weeks after making the statement. So much for a helmet saving his life. -- Avery Burdett Ottawa, Ontario
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fe616,3d27d1494f9197b X-Google-Attributes: gidfe616,public X-Google-Thread: f7b9c,1c3b7b60fa86588e X-Google-Attributes: gidf7b9c,public X-Google-Thread: f9fae,1c3b7b60fa86588e X-Google-Attributes: gidf9fae,public From: ab833@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Avery Burdett) Subject: Re: PEI Bicycle Helmet Zealots Thwarted Date: 1997/06/16 Message-ID: <5o41c4$5hc@freenet-news.carleton.ca> X-Deja-AN: 248883645 References: <339EF31C.1019@diespamjerk.sentex.net> <9706111626261407@portal.ca> <33A022DA.618E@direct.ca> <5npe2j$1l6@groucho.cs.ubc.ca> <33A17E31.B@direct.ca> <5nsg9s$4db@freenet-news.carleton.ca> <33A57BF4.7E3B@direct.ca> X-Given-Sender: ab833@freenet5.carleton.ca (Avery Burdett) Organization: The National Capital FreeNet Reply-To: ab833@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Avery Burdett) Newsgroups: ont.bicycle,bc.cycling,ns.general