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In article <1992Aug07.000305.18362@r-node.gts.org> marc@r-node.gts.org (Marc Fournier - Sys Admin) writes:
|Hello...
|
|	One of my neighbors has offered to act as an MX forwarder
|for this site.  How do we go about it?
|
|	The suggestion from him was to make this site r-node.on.ca,
|so, how do we register as part of on.ca.  Is it possible?  Who
|do we contact for this?


	It is far simpler (and cheaper) to register
	in the .ORG domain.  Send email with subject
	line of HELP to service@nic.ddn.mil - then
	just follow the yellow brick road as it were.


	You will end up with a domain application
	which is fairly straighforward - you will
	need to explain why you wish to be in the
	.ORG domain (which basically should be the
	non-profit nature of your non-business
	operation).


-- 
  ,u,	 Bruce Becker			Toronto, Ontario
a /i/	 Internet: bdb@becker.gts.org	Uucp: ...!web!becker!bdb
 `\o\-e	 "The word 'AT&T' is made up of letters, which are the
 _< /_	 intellectual property of Vanna White" - A. Coopersmith

bdb@becker.GTS.ORG (Bruce Becker) writes:

>|	The suggestion from him was to make this site r-node.on.ca,
>|so, how do we register as part of on.ca.  Is it possible?  Who
>|do we contact for this?

>	It is far simpler (and cheaper) to register
>	in the .ORG domain.  Send email with subject
>	line of HELP to service@nic.ddn.mil - then
>	just follow the yellow brick road as it were.

The only problem with this is that you then have to track down two
nameservers and at least one MXer, two things which are not
always particularly easy to arrange.

If you have an Internet MXer lined up who is willing to deliver mail
from the Internet into your domain, then you might find it worth the
registration fee is to register under *.ca.  .Ca nameservice will be
taken care of for you through the kindness of the top-level CA-Domain
servers. 

At the top of the Canadian UUCP maps, one sees this notice:

#	If you wish to register your site as a subdomain under the Canadian
#	top-level domain (.ca) or want related information, please contact:
#
#		registry@cs.toronto.edu, registry@cs.utoronto.ca, utai!registry
#	
#	For information about registering under any of .edu, .com, .gov etc,
#	please contact domain-request@uunet.uu.net or uunet!domain-request.

Sending mail to utai!registry address will get you a useful
information package and a domain registration form.  UUCP sites in
Canada that wish to register under .ca should contact
registry@cs.toronto.edu.

UUCP sites in Canada that wish to register under a domain other than
.ca should contact either domain-request@uunet.uu.net or info@uunet.ca.

Sending mail to domain-request@uunet.uu.net will get you a form which
you will need to fill out and send back.  You can arrange nameservice
with the top-level UUCP nameservers (uunet will do this for you) rather
than hunt down two sites on your own.  You will however need an MXer
for your domain to work.

People in Canada also can write to info@uunet.ca for information about
registering a domain in .edu, .com, .gov, etc.  We also do MXing and
nameservice for UUCP and IP customers, and deal with the bulk of the
paperwork and technical details for them.

>	You will end up with a domain application
>	which is fairly straighforward - you will
>	need to explain why you wish to be in the
>	.ORG domain (which basically should be the
>	non-profit nature of your non-business
>	operation).

Sort-of, maybe.  The NIC is generally more concerned about the sanity
of nameservice, and will want to see nameservice up and running on the
two sites you tell them about.  MXing, getting mail into your domain
from the Internet and so forth is something the NIC does not work out
for you.

	Sean.

In article <1992Aug11.052222.28550@uunet.ca> smd@uunet.ca (Sean Doran) writes:
|bdb@becker.GTS.ORG (Bruce Becker) writes:
|
|>|	The suggestion from him was to make this site r-node.on.ca,
|>|so, how do we register as part of on.ca.  Is it possible?  Who
|>|do we contact for this?
|
|>	It is far simpler (and cheaper) to register
|>	in the .ORG domain.  Send email with subject
|>	line of HELP to service@nic.ddn.mil - then
|>	just follow the yellow brick road as it were.
|
|The only problem with this is that you then have to track down two
|nameservers and at least one MXer, two things which are not
|always particularly easy to arrange.
|
|If you have an Internet MXer lined up who is willing to deliver mail
|from the Internet into your domain, then you might find it worth the
|registration fee is to register under *.ca.  .Ca nameservice will be
|taken care of for you through the kindness of the top-level CA-Domain
|servers. 


	???? What top-level domain servers?  I thought
	there was no system which answered for the .CA
	domain directly.


	in any case one needs an internet site willing
	to hold one's MX record, regardless of whether
	one in in .CA or in any other domain. This is
	one reason why domain parks exist, since by
	grouping together sites can trade off a larger
	volume of email for a given domain for only
	one set of nameservers & MX holders.


|                 The NIC is generally more concerned about the sanity
|of nameservice, and will want to see nameservice up and running on the
|two sites you tell them about.  MXing, getting mail into your domain
|from the Internet and so forth is something the NIC does not work out
|for you.


	Neither does the .CA domain as far as I have seen...


-- 
  ,u,	 Bruce Becker			Toronto, Ontario
a /i/	 Internet: bdb@becker.gts.org	Uucp: ...!web!becker!bdb
 `\o\-e	 "The word 'AT&T' is made up of letters, which are the
 _< /_	 intellectual property of Vanna White" - A. Coopersmith

In <1992Aug14.143800.6303@becker.GTS.ORG> bdb@becker.GTS.ORG (Bruce Becker) writes:

>	???? What top-level domain servers?  I thought
>	there was no system which answered for the .CA
>	domain directly.

The authoritative servers for .ca are relay.cdnnet.ca (primary),
clouso.crim.ca, ugw.utcs.utoronto.ca and nnsc.nsf.net.  There is no "global"
MX record for .ca, however -- each domain picks its own gateway, typically
itself for an Internet site, or a UUCP neighbour already on the Internet for
UUCP sites.

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Computer Networks and Systems				  |   lamy@sobeco.ca
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