🚀 go-pugleaf

In article <20520@watdragon.waterloo.edu> (Murray S. Kucherawy) writes:
> I received a message from a user at AT&T, and my mailer doesn't
> like the address he sent. Please send me a mail address in 
> INTERNET/ARPANET format (ie. user@site). His address, as it appeared
> in his .signature is uunet!attcan!bob.
> 
> =========================== Murray S. Kucherawy ============================
> E-Mail:    mskucherawy@{ watmath | dahlia | crocus | trillium }.waterloo.edu

Hi Murray,

Since I was the one whom you were trying to send e-mail to, I thought that I'd
follow-up your posting, as there may be others out there whose mailers don't
like UUCP addresses like "uunet!attcan!bob" and who don't know how to get
through (and someone will probably post a correction if I make any mistakes :-)

If a UUCP host doesn't have an officially registered domain, then you can reach
a user on that host, by simply tacking ".UUCP" on the end of the sitename, as
long as you can reach a Smart Mailer, which will take care of forwarding it
accordingly.

Since watmath has a smart mailer, you should be able to just use the 
following path to get through:

	bob@attcan.UUCP

If however, you were on a site that didn't have a mailer that could
handle the ".UUCP" convention, then you could forward your mail to
a site that does. In S/W Ontario, watmath and gpu are a few sites
that do, and on the internet, uunet does as well. Hence, any of the following
should work:

	bob%attcan.UUCP@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca
	bob%attcan.UUCP@watmath.waterloo.edu
	bob%attcan.UUCP@uunet.uu.net

Another way of going through those same sites is by saying that the UUCP path
(ie X!Y!Z) is "at" (ie @) the Smart Mailer Sitename, and any of the following
should also work:

	attcan!bob@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca
	attcan!bob@watmath.waterloo.edu
	attcan!bob@uunet.uu.net

Hope this helps. 

Regards,
	Bob

-- 
Bob Kyryliuk				      PHONE:     (416) 756-5183
Manager, Electronic Information Resources
National Technical Support		      AT&T Mail: !bkyryliuk
AT&T Canada Inc.			      UUCP:{att|uunet|utzoo}!attcan!bob

In article <20520@watdragon.waterloo.edu> mskucherawy@dahlia.waterloo.edu (Murray S. Kucherawy) writes:
> I received a message from a user at AT&T, and my mailer doesn't
> like the address he sent. Please send me a mail address in 
> INTERNET/ARPANET format (ie. user@site). His address, as it appeared
> in his .signature is uunet!attcan!bob.

This is surprising, since dahlia's mailer does understand how to send a
message to uunet.

 -Guy Middleton, Math Faculty Postmaster, University of Waterloo
  gamiddleton@watmath.waterloo.edu or gamiddleton@watmath.uwaterloo.ca

In article <1443@maytag.waterloo.edu> gamiddon@maytag.waterloo.edu (Guy Middleton) writes:
|In article <20520@watdragon.waterloo.edu> mskucherawy@dahlia.waterloo.edu (Murray S. Kucherawy) writes:
|> I received a message from a user at AT&T, and my mailer doesn't
|> like the address he sent. Please send me a mail address in 
|> INTERNET/ARPANET format (ie. user@site). His address, as it appeared
|> in his .signature is uunet!attcan!bob.
|
|This is surprising, since dahlia's mailer does understand how to send a
|message to uunet.

	Indeed. I believe we need a fair bit more
	detail in order to diagnose the problem,
	such as what kind of system & O/S, the type
	of mailer, the error message in question,
	etc.

	A lot of general advice seems to have been
	given which may cause random problems, to wit,
	addresses with "%" will break in many mail
	transfer agents, and addresses containing
	both "!" and "@" are ambiguous in their
	interpretation.

-- 
  (__)	 Bruce Becker	Toronto, Ont.
w \@@/	 Internet: bdb@becker.UUCP, bruce@gpu.utcs.toronto.edu
 `/v/-e	 BitNet:   BECKER@HUMBER.BITNET
_/  \_	 Well I didn't want to mention it cause it's so silly, but you know how

In article <3569@becker.UUCP> bdb@becker.UUCP (Bruce Becker) writes:
>	Indeed. I believe we need a fair bit more
>	detail in order to diagnose the problem,
>	such as what kind of system & O/S, the type
>	of mailer, the error message in question,
>	etc.

Nope - the user should go see a consultant to figure out what the problem
is.  Our mailer generally works, and so it's either a user problem, or
a local problem.  No sense annoying ont.uucp about it more.

In article <20629@watdragon.waterloo.edu> jmsellens@watdragon.waterloo.edu (John M. Sellens) writes:
> In article <3569@becker.UUCP> bdb@becker.UUCP (Bruce Becker) writes:
...
> is.  Our mailer generally works, and so it's either a user problem, or
> a local problem.  No sense annoying ont.uucp about it more.

Why not, the purpose of the net is to ask questions and get answers or
have we lost focus on this. The process is to learn not to know!
-- 
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
NAME:     Dennis S. Breckenridge                 UUCP: dennis@nebulus
               EMACS: Eight Megabytes And Constantly Swapping!
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

In article <1990Feb8.151013.14797@nebulus.UUCP> root@nebulus.UUCP (Dennis S. Breckenridge) writes:
>In article <20629@watdragon.waterloo.edu> jmsellens@watdragon.waterloo.edu (John M. Sellens) writes:
>> is.  Our mailer generally works, and so it's either a user problem, or
>> a local problem.  No sense annoying ont.uucp about it more.
>
>Why not, the purpose of the net is to ask questions and get answers or
>have we lost focus on this. The process is to learn not to know!

OK.  The problem here was that the user was trying to mail using a bang
path, is a csh user, and forgot to escape the bangs with \.

This is a discussion for ont.uucp?