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Re: if abortion is murder, it's murder

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From: Eric Williams PCB x5577
Date: Thu, 07 Nov 1996 00:00
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In article <327BCA95.2C77@nwark.com>, "TJ \"Spark\" Miller jr." <tjmiller@nwark.com> writes:
> Ray Fischer wrote:
> > 

[munched]

> > Just like the murder of hundreds of millions of "young human lives"
> > (aka, sperm) is enough for YOU?
> 
> Why must you keep setting yourself up for this Ray? Pay attention now:
> 
> 1) Sperm are not complete human bodies, nor is your finger by itself.
> 
> 2) Ova are not complete human bodies, and neither is her finger, by
> itself.
> 
> 3) A growing, viable Fetus IS a complete human being. (BTW, you never
> told me what species you think a fetus should belong to, since you think
> that it's not human)

I will note that a foetus before about 22 weeks or so cannot even breathe on
its own (the lungs having no alveoli (how *does* one spell that?) in order to
exchange oxygen and carbon dioxide with the air).  Therefore, a foetus is *not*
complete, at least not before the point of viability.

And of course a foetus is not a complete human being anyway, since it is still
taking nutrients from the woman's body until birth.  (To be fair, a newborn,
toddler, child, or even pubescent teenager isn't quite complete either,
since they are still growing; one could also make a case that no one is really
ever complete until death.  Or, if you like, one is not complete until one is
capable of reproduction.)

[.sigsnip]

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From: ewill@hpewill.sje.mentorg.com (Eric Williams @ PCB x5577)
Subject: Re: if abortion is murder, it's murder
Date: 1996/11/07
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