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Ray Fischer wrote:
> 
> Rob Hocker  <rah@teleport.com> wrote:
> >Ray Fischer wrote:
> >> Rob Hocker  <rah@teleport.com> wrote:
> >> >Ray Fischer wrote:
> 
> >> >>  I know of no pro-choice leader of
> >> >> advocate who has either committed murder or commended murder.
> >> >
> >> >I guess the blood of millions of "young human lives" is enough for them.
> >>
> >> Just like the murder of hundreds of millions of "young human lives"
> >> (aka, sperm) is enough for YOU?
> >
> >Sperm do not contain the full set of human DNA.
> 
> So what?
>

The DNA of an organism scientifically *defines* (and settles)
what the being is: i.e., the fetus is fully a human being;
human sperm is not. 

> >  Sperm do not
> >multiply their cell count as does a growing organism.
> 
> Sure they do.  Give them a suitable egg and away they go.

i.e., once they join with the egg to form a human being,
the fully human cells start multiplying.

> 
> >  Sperm are
> >therefore not human beings.
> 
> And neither are embryos.

If the embryo has human DNA, then it is scientifically a
human being.  Denying the scientific facts won't make
them go away.

BTW, if you believe that the human embryo (fetus) is
not a human, why, in your post dated Sun, 3 Nov 1996
20:45:33 GMT, did you state otherwise:

> TJ \"Spark\" Miller jr. <tjmiller@nwark.com> wrote:
>> (BTW, you never
>> told me what species you think a fetus should belong to, since you think
>> that it's not human)

> Stop lying.  I have never said that a human fetus is not human.

Rob.