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Re: if abortion is murder, it's murder

#472
From: Walter Hansen
Date: Sat, 02 Nov 1996 00:00
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Rob Hocker (rah@teleport.com) wrote:
: >         So they will show her the positive benefits of an abortion?
: 
: The only positive benefit of an abortion worth being compared to
: the negative effect of the loss of the human life is that a life
: might be spared.  At least one out of the two lives might be
: spared in that rare medical circumstance.  Yes, they will discuss
: that benefit.

	Can you answer a simple question with a yes or no? Oh, I see, you
finaly say "Yes", but it's pretty muddled. Try just saying yes or no. We'll
try again.

	So will they show her the postive benefits of an abortion; yes or
no?

: > : Given that what you state as "given" is not given at all, CPC's advocate
: > : what is best for *both* mother and child.
: > 
: >         And what exactly is this?
: 
: That both persons should be allowed to live... remember "life, liberty,
: and the persuit of happineff" :)

	All persons should be allowed to live. Fetuses are not persons.
Remember a little thing called the Constution? Remember a little thing like
you havne't proven that a fetus is a person. Or are you simply playing the
"I can shout louder than you!" game.

: >         And why is that? If it is not the view of the organization, where is
: > the problem.
: >
: 
: The organization was founded on her value system, and is carrying out
: her value system.  An organization rarely differs from the purpose if
: was founded to perform, especially when it outwardly and openly
: celebrates the founder and never has renounced the philosophy.

	I suppose you can show me the racist practices within the
organization. Rember that I have been to the above mentioned organization on
many an occasion.

: >         Perhaps many of her views were valid. Perhaps they did not need to
: > renounce her. After all she did take part in the starting of Planed
: > Paranthood, an organization that has had a positive effect upon thousands of
: > people throuout the nation.
: 
: and a negative effectt (death) upon millions.

	and a positive effect (life) upon the (supposed) millions of women
who had abortions performed.

	I suppose you think I am a mass murder for killing millions of sperm
cells in my sleep?

: > And don't make an asertation without proper
: > proof. If you maintain that the organization is an outgrouwth of her
: > philosophy, it is to you to show what philosophyies and how they are
: > embrased by the organization. Please provided documentation. Funny, I
: > actively celebrate people who founded this nation, all of whom owned slaves.
: > So do hundreds of thousands of people, many of them black.
: 
: Yes, the "organization" of the United States included, for a time, an
: outgrowth of the philosophy of slavery.  But a radical renunciation
: took place... it was the Civil War.

	It is a common MYTH that the Civil War was about slavery. Slavery
was a side issue. Check it out sometime.

: There are many places to learn about Planned Parenthood, but try the
: following book:
: 
: Grand Illusions: The Legacy of Planned Parenthood. Grant, George.
: (Brentwood, 
: TN: Wolgemuth & Hyatt, 1988)

	At least he's got a referance. But like I have said I've been to
Planned Paranthood on many occasions, have you?


						-Walter Hansen
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From: gandalf@sonic.net (Walter Hansen)
Subject: Re: if abortion is murder, it's murder
Date: 1996/11/02
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