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Article #472Re: if abortion is murder, it's murder
From: Walter Hansen
Date: Sat, 02 Nov 1996 00:00
Date: Sat, 02 Nov 1996 00:00
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Rob Hocker (rah@teleport.com) wrote: : > So they will show her the positive benefits of an abortion? : : The only positive benefit of an abortion worth being compared to : the negative effect of the loss of the human life is that a life : might be spared. At least one out of the two lives might be : spared in that rare medical circumstance. Yes, they will discuss : that benefit. Can you answer a simple question with a yes or no? Oh, I see, you finaly say "Yes", but it's pretty muddled. Try just saying yes or no. We'll try again. So will they show her the postive benefits of an abortion; yes or no? : > : Given that what you state as "given" is not given at all, CPC's advocate : > : what is best for *both* mother and child. : > : > And what exactly is this? : : That both persons should be allowed to live... remember "life, liberty, : and the persuit of happineff" :) All persons should be allowed to live. Fetuses are not persons. Remember a little thing called the Constution? Remember a little thing like you havne't proven that a fetus is a person. Or are you simply playing the "I can shout louder than you!" game. : > And why is that? If it is not the view of the organization, where is : > the problem. : > : : The organization was founded on her value system, and is carrying out : her value system. An organization rarely differs from the purpose if : was founded to perform, especially when it outwardly and openly : celebrates the founder and never has renounced the philosophy. I suppose you can show me the racist practices within the organization. Rember that I have been to the above mentioned organization on many an occasion. : > Perhaps many of her views were valid. Perhaps they did not need to : > renounce her. After all she did take part in the starting of Planed : > Paranthood, an organization that has had a positive effect upon thousands of : > people throuout the nation. : : and a negative effectt (death) upon millions. and a positive effect (life) upon the (supposed) millions of women who had abortions performed. I suppose you think I am a mass murder for killing millions of sperm cells in my sleep? : > And don't make an asertation without proper : > proof. If you maintain that the organization is an outgrouwth of her : > philosophy, it is to you to show what philosophyies and how they are : > embrased by the organization. Please provided documentation. Funny, I : > actively celebrate people who founded this nation, all of whom owned slaves. : > So do hundreds of thousands of people, many of them black. : : Yes, the "organization" of the United States included, for a time, an : outgrowth of the philosophy of slavery. But a radical renunciation : took place... it was the Civil War. It is a common MYTH that the Civil War was about slavery. Slavery was a side issue. Check it out sometime. : There are many places to learn about Planned Parenthood, but try the : following book: : : Grand Illusions: The Legacy of Planned Parenthood. Grant, George. : (Brentwood, : TN: Wolgemuth & Hyatt, 1988) At least he's got a referance. But like I have said I've been to Planned Paranthood on many occasions, have you? -Walter Hansen
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 106ed4,64603ffbe04c6f43 X-Google-Attributes: gid106ed4,public X-Google-Thread: fb1cb,64603ffbe04c6f43 X-Google-Attributes: gidfb1cb,public X-Google-Thread: 105850,b96e15306975007b X-Google-Attributes: gid105850,public X-Google-Thread: 10e835,64603ffbe04c6f43 X-Google-Attributes: gid10e835,public X-Google-Thread: 10a18d,64603ffbe04c6f43 X-Google-Attributes: gid10a18d,public X-Google-Thread: 111a85,10ff89500e49e4b3 X-Google-Attributes: gid111a85,public From: gandalf@sonic.net (Walter Hansen) Subject: Re: if abortion is murder, it's murder Date: 1996/11/02 Message-ID: <55fhad$4cu@bolt.sonic.net> X-Deja-AN: 193950105 references: <326AC58E.5DAD@teleport.com> <32762F40.6CE5@express-news.net> <rayE024sx.68s@netcom.com> <327699C5.1BD6@teleport.com> <rayE03tJC.LM@netcom.com> <327845DB.21A6@teleport.com> <55carn$jie@bolt.sonic.net> <327A9403.1337@teleport.com> followup-to: or.general,ca.general,seattle.general,chi.general,or.politics,talk.abortion organization: Sonoma Interconnect,Santa Rosa,CA(us),http://www.sonic.net newsgroups: or.general,ca.general,seattle.general,chi.general,or.politics,talk.abortion