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In article <4pr329$o1a@news.magick.net>,
Raymond Karczewski <arkent@magick.net> wrote:
>Bill,
>    You have seriously misread me.  It is the contradiction of one who
>is trapped when  living his/her life while filtering their perceptions
>through their  socially conditioned, dualistic, intellectual mind that
>is the cause of suffering in the world, nothing else. There is no
>suffering beyond the limited mind of intellectualism.  But you, Bill,
>have yet to grasp that.

   Indeed?  The last time I hit myself in the thumb with a hammer, I
   guarantee that I suffered immensely, if only for a short time.  And
   the only thing that required filtering was my language.

   "There is no suffering beyond the limited mind of intellectualism.  "?
   15 minutes with a Grand Inquisotor should be sufficient to change your
   mind.


>   In  times of natural events like earthquakes, floods, hurricanes,
>etc., one either survives them  or not.  It is the quality of
>consciousness in the state of reaction which dictates suffering, not
>the actual events.

  You bet.  Losing one's entire family in an earthquake only creates
  suffering in the minds of the spiritually bound.  

>
>   Only in the case of man's immersion in his own conflicted mind, via
>illusory societal rules which perpetuate in one's psyche a constant
>state of coercion and reaction,  does man truly suffer.  

  The only suffering I'm eduring in this thread is wading through your
  astoundingly obtuse vocabulary.


  Societal rules are far from illusory.  Break a couple of the biggies,
  like murder or grand theft, for illustration of my point.  And I'll be
  the judge of what causes me to truly suffer, thank you very much.

>  I did not include natural events in the post so as not to be accused
>of long-windedness.  Didn't work, did it?   The fact has always been
>that people are going to believe what they want to believe, until they
>are ready to see the truth for themselves.  Until then, they will
>suffer.

  How then do you account for the fact that I have reached a very
  different "truth" than you, yet seem to suffer very little ?
  Could it be that you don't yet realize that your truths are by no
  means universal?  Or that you long winded and arrogant style isn't
  bolstering your arguments?

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