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Re: New Economic System

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From: Raymond Karczewski
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 00:00
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Re:  New Economic System

petrich@netcom.com (Loren Petrich) wrote:

>In article <4g0le1$hi3@smooth.asgo.net>,
>J. B. Taylor <jbtaylor@asgo.net> wrote:

>>Karl Marx wrote the "Communist Manifesto" actually, one of the finest
>>pieces of comedy fiction known to man.  He seemed to overlook the fact
>>that human beings are territorial.  We like to collect and own things.
>>We like to further ourselves and grow.  We like to own things. ...

>	I'm sure that some power-hungry, pork-barrelling politician will 
>be happy to offer that defense of his/her actions.

>	Or some thief.

>-- 
>Loren Petrich				Happiness is a fast Macintosh
>petrich@netcom.com			And a fast train
>My home page: ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/pe/petrich/home.html
>Or ftp to ftp.netcom.com and go to /pub/pe/petrich

J.B.

  I have not read Karl Marx, but I have read your remarks above. Your
personal views have been conditioned into you at a very  early age by
family, schools, and church.  You seem to regard your assumptions as
fact, and you freely distribute them as such.   A fact is based in
truth.  Truth is a universal, holistic energy.  It is without
contradiction or exception.  If there exists one exception or
contradiction to the holistic flow of energy, such statement can not
be the truth.  

  Look at the life of the man Jesus. He owned nothing, nor was He
territorial. He advised the rich man seeking peace to give what he
owned to the poor (redistribution of wealth) and follow Him.  The rich
man couldn't do it.  It was asking too much.

  Having said that and admitting that I am not a Christian in an
ordinary sense (I reject organized Christianity), I do recognize an
intelligent, integral  man when I see one.  An intelligent, integral
man is at one with and therefore is unable to speak anything but the
truth. Jesus was that man, and He was just that--a man.  Was he the
Son of God?  As much as we all are, You and I included.  Such a person
lives his/her life holistically; they are guided by an intelligence
uncorrupted by mind control techniques. (The legacy of corruption that
awaits all born into civilized societies. )  These simple, honest,
integral beings are the exception to the rule of societal conditioned,
civilized beings and, as such,  are free human beings in the truest
sense.

  I can tell you, ownership and territorialness is not a factor in
their lives.  What you have described above is the legacy of  Hell as
it applies to all corrupted, conditioned, fragmented minds whose
enslavement to serving a system based on the inherent corruption of
thought is the only life they will ever know.  The divisiveness and
violence that accompanies acquisition and territorialness is why our
world is in the shape that it's in.   It also explains why there has
never been a period in man's history when war has not broken out.  

You, J.B., have not only described  the effects of a corrupted
collective mind but you have legitimized  it. 

                                                     Ray


Raymond Karczewski  http://www.virtualplex.com/vplex/ark/
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From: arkent@magick.net (Raymond Karczewski)
Subject: Re:  New Economic System
Date: 1996/02/18
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