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In <32Yec.9235$2H4.2537@clgrps12> Oliver Wendell Jones wrote:
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> Translation: Flamming is useless

Translation: Oliver has just run out of insults. 

Oooooo...that was easy. Now, if Sharx could fall so easily. Wait. If 
Sharx fell, the ground would tremble.

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> In article <20040413141246960-0600@news.telusplanet.net>, 
> shhh@dontaskdonttell.org says...
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>>In <3QLec.9114$2H4.3369@clgrps12> Oliver Wendell Jones wrote:
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>>> And what is a 'just war', one with the Jesus stamp of approval?
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>>Hard one, but let me see...I suppose, inspite of all the recent events 
>>to the contrary, we can call WWII and just war in that that world was 
>>about to fall prey to one, possibly two, powerful regimes bent on 
>>genocide.
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>>Gulf War part two: When Saddam was a friend of US foreign policy, he 
>>had  an oppressive bent, but that didn't matter to the US: Saddam was 
>>their  friend. Hell, they even gave him the intelligence and the WMD 
>>agents to  kill some 8,000 Kurds, as well as several thousands of 
>>Iranians. (I  guess at that time, the Kurds and the Iranians were bad 
>>to the US.) So,  in the second Gulf War, the US not only calls Saddam 
>>an "enemy of  humanity", but they say they ousting him to avenge the 
>>deaths of the  Kurds and Shi'as he's killed. Just proves that US 
>>foreign policy is as  two-faced as ever. And now, not only are the 
>>Sunnis the enemy insurgents,  but all those victimized Shi'as have 
>>become enemies of the US. With all  the modification of the truth 
>>going on here, one wonders is the Bush  Administration thinks that 
>>everyone has short term memory like them. 
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>>> What is an 'unjust war'?  Waged by evil devil people?
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>>I suppose in the minds of the Iraqi insurgents, they are waging a just 
>>war against an imperial power that wants nothing more than to 
>>slaughter  them wholesale in the name of oil and Geo. W. Bush's 
>>monster ego.   In that case, not enough Americans will die, but here's 
>>to their efforts.     
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>>> In article <20040412230750849-0600@news.telusplanet.net>, 
>>> shhh@dontaskdonttell.org says...
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>>>>In <iZIec.9092$2H4.6560@clgrps12> Oliver Wendell Jones wrote:
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>>>>> Rooney's article missed the mark.  Of course a war correspondant 
>>>>> couldn't ask  "do you think we're achieving our goals or should we 
>>>>> pull out?" now like they  used to in WW2, because in WW2 almost 
>>>>> everybody was onboard against the 'evil  nazi menace'.  It would 
>>>>> have  been unthinkable to even suggest retreat no matter  how 
>>>>> steep  the  casualties.  This is why Rooney's analogy is useless, 
>>>>> and more   than a  little disingenuous.  That whole patriotic anti-
>>>>> nazi  sentiment from  WW2  was shifted right into anti-communist 
>>>>> sentiment,  fairly well  played domestic  strategy, in fact.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>So, all you mentioned was that Rooney, and those of his generation, 
>>>>knew  the difference between a just and unjust war.  Try again?
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