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Article #662Re: Bring em on
From: Oliver Wendell Jones
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 23:54
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 23:54
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In article <dyZec.109024$oR5.34144@pd7tw3no>, nobody@home.net says... > nobody, indeed. Inspired by the high ideals and dynamic leadership of Peter Vasilevich Verigin together with some brave individuals who were willing to take a conscientious stand on matters of belief and practice, the Doukhobors made a decisive move against militarism and all forms of violence. On Easter Sunday, Matvey Lebedev and ten of his officers serving in the reserve battalion at Elizavetpol began rejection of war by refusing to go to church parade and dropping their guns and their military insignias. "War", they said, "was incompatible with Christianity, and Christ had commanded them "Resist not him that is evil." The men were arrested, beaten to submission, threatened with death, then seen to Siberian exile. This brave example was followed in June 29, 1895 with some 7000 Doukhobors burning all their weapons, as a symbolic act marking the total renunciation of the taking of life. Alcohol and tobacco were rejected because they serve to harm the body; it was also an argument of support for the expected persecution that would follow. The tsarist state and church authorities reacted strongly against the ban on killing; instead, they tortured and exiled these Russian dissidents, and took away their normal freedoms. Many people died, Suffering of such proportions attracted world wide attention, and with the help of humanitarians such as Lev N. Tolstoy and the Society of Friends (Quakers) one third of the persecuted Doukhobors were able to emigrate to Canada as "as a home away from home, a haven, a refuge". >"Oliver Wendell Jones" <jones@owendell.com> wrote in message >news:X2Yec.9236$2H4.7006@clgrps12... >> In article <c5hglb$541$1@vcn.bc.ca>, gapope@vcn.bc.ca says... >> > >> >Why blame the soldiers? >> > >> >They don't have any real choice in the matter! >> > >> >> Doukhabors would tend to disagree.... >> > > You both were probably born yesterday and never heard of 'quiting' or AWOL >( see Vietnam ) . > Fuck are you ever retarded. why don't you just fucking go away for a few years and bone up on subjects you think you know anything about before coming back here to spout off? It sure would save me some time.
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