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Article #677Re: ANDY ROONEY
From: Jon Flamming
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 02:51
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 02:51
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Andy Rooney would know, considering he's covered at least two major wars as a correspondent. It seems to me that the generation that remembers WWII are the ones most likely to opposed this war. They are few in number, but their comments could have some resonance over the Vietnam generation, which is still smarting after being suckered into that war. In <yJFec.4974$G3.44394@localhost> ~Top Poster~ wrote: > Our soldiers in Iraq aren't heroes > > 4/12/2004 > > By ANDY ROONEY > > Most of the reporting from Iraq is about death and destruction. We > don't learn much about what our soldiers in Iraq are thinking or doing. > There's no Ernie Pyle to tell us, and, if there were, the military > would make it difficult or impossible for him to let us know. It would > be interesting to have a reporter ask a group of our soldiers in Iraq > to answer five questions and see the results: > > 1. Do you think your country did the right thing sending you into Iraq? > > 2. Are you doing what America set out to do to make Iraq a democracy, > or have we failed so badly that we should pack up and get out before > more of you are killed? > > 3. Do the orders you get handed down from one headquarters to another, > all far removed from the fighting, seem sensible, or do you think our > highest command is out of touch with the reality of your situation? > > 4. If you could have a medal or a trip home, which would you take? > > 5. Are you encouraged by all the talk back home about how brave you > are and how everyone supports you? > > Treating soldiers fighting their war as brave heroes is an old > civilian trick designed to keep the soldiers at it. But you can be > sure our soldiers in Iraq are not all brave heroes gladly risking > their lives for us sitting comfortably back here at home. > > Our soldiers in Iraq are people, young men and women, and they behave > like people - sometimes good and sometimes bad, sometimes brave, > sometimes fearful. It's disingenuous of the rest of us to encourage > them to fight this war by idolizing them. > > We pin medals on their chests to keep them going. We speak of them as > if they volunteered to risk their lives to save ours, but there isn't > much voluntary about what most of them have done. A relatively small > number are professional soldiers. During the last few years, when > millions of jobs disappeared, many young people, desperate for some > income, enlisted in the Army. About 40 percent of our soldiers in Iraq > enlisted in the National Guard or the Army Reserve to pick up some > extra money and never thought they'd be called on to fight. They want > to come home. > > One indication that not all soldiers in Iraq are happy warriors is the > report recently released by the Army showing that 23 of them committed > suicide there last year. This is a dismaying figure. If 22 young men > and one woman killed themselves because they couldn't take it, think > how many more are desperately unhappy but unwilling to die. > > We must support our soldiers in Iraq because it's our fault they're > risking their lives there. However, we should not bestow the mantle of > heroism on all of them for simply being where we sent them. Most are > victims, not heroes. > > America's intentions are honorable. I believe that, and we must find a > way of making the rest of the world believe it. We want to do the > right thing. We care about the rest of the world. President Bush's > intentions were honorable when he took us into Iraq. They were not > well thought out but honorable. > > Bush's determination to make the evidence fit the action he took, > which it does not, has made things look worse. We pay lip service to > the virtues of openness and honesty, but for some reason, we too often > act as though there was a better way of handling a bad situation than > by being absolutely open and honest. > > > > > > > -- > Socrates taught his students that the pursuit of truth can only begin > once they start to question and analyze every belief that they ever > held dear. If a certain belief passes the tests of evidence, deduction, > and logic, it should be kept. If it doesn't, the belief should not > only be discarded, but the thinker must also then question why he was > led to believe the erroneous > > > > > > > >
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