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Re: Social Security for illegal aliens

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From: tedorn44
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2007 12:35
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- wrote:
> fucken  Bush ...
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> http://www.halturnershow.com/index.html
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> Published January 5, 2007 1:02 PM EST
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> BUSH: ILLEGAL ALIENS GIVEN AMNESTY IN THE FUTURE WILL BE ABLE TO CLAIM
> SOCIAL SECURITY BENFITS FOR THE TIME THEY WORKED ILLEGALLY
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> THIS SON OF A BITCH IS PUTTING EVEN MORE DEBT ONTO AN ALREADY BANKRUPT
> SOCIAL SECURITY SYSTEM!
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> IN MY OPINION, THERE IS ONLY ONE SOLUTION LEFT TO US:  O V E R T H R O W
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>
> Go tell all your senior citizen relatives how Bush is endangering
> THEIR monthly checks by adding millions of illegal aliens to the
> social security roles.
>
>
> Click Here
> http://www.washtimes.com/national/20070104-120950-4277r.htm
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> Social Security for illegal aliens
> By Stephen Dinan
> THE WASHINGTON TIMES
> January 4, 2007
>
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>     An agreement the Bush administration reached with Mexico on Social
>     Security benefits would allow illegal aliens granted amnesty in
>     the future to claim credit for the time they worked illegally.
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>     The deal was reached in 2004 but never released publicly because
>     it hasn't been submitted to Congress. The TREA Senior Citizens
>     League, a Social Security advocacy group, recently obtained the
>     document through a Freedom of Information Act, and said it
>     confirms the group's worst fears.
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>     The document is a jumble of definitions and legal language, but a
>     spokesman for the group said what's important is what's not in the
>     text: It does nothing to prevent undocumented aliens who later get
>     legal status from receiving benefits for the time they worked
>     illegally. And that comes as the Social Security system's finances
>     are about to be put under greater strain by the retirement of baby
>     boomers.
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>     "If you open up the trust fund to people who have been working in
>     the country illegally for many years, that bankruptcy date can
>     only come sooner," spokesman Brad Phillips said. "People on the
>     other side of this, people who have been arguing that of course
>     illegal aliens can't get their hands on Social Security benefits,
>     now can't make that argument easily anymore."
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>     But Mark Lassiter, a spokesman for the Social Security
>     Administration, said the agreement doesn't change U.S. law. The
>     law states that those who do not have authorization to work will
>     not get benefits under a totalization agreement.
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>     "To get Social Security benefits, you do have to be legally in the
>     United States. This agreement does not address in any way
>     immigration, immigration laws or override current law," he said,
>     adding that a 2004 law, the Social Security Protection Act,
>     prevents illegal aliens from getting benefits.
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>     But the seniors group said the 2004 law also states that if those
>     aliens later get legal status -- through an amnesty or some sort
>     of legalization plan such as the one President Bush and the Senate
>     tried to enact last year -- they would be able to collect the
>     benefits based on their time as illegal workers.
>
>     The deal has not taken effect because Mr. Bush has not signed it
>     or submitted it to Congress. Once he does, Congress would have 60
>     days to vote against it or it automatically would become law.
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>     Congress has never defeated any of the 21 other totalization
>     agreements the United States has reached. Most of those have been
>     with European nations, with the financial effects known to be
>     smaller.
>
>     Some lawmakers say Mr. Bush has not submitted the agreement
>     because it would get caught up in the debate over Social
>     Security's poor fiscal health, which could doom the measure.
>
>     Totalization agreements end double taxation, so workers have to
>     pay only into one country's system, and allow a worker who didn't
>     have enough credits in any one country to qualify for benefits to
>     pool his or her credits. In the United States, it takes 10 years,
>     or 40 quarters, to qualify.
>
>     Mr. Lassiter said that's not to say Mexican workers who spent less
>     time, such as the six quarters minimum needed to pool credits,
>     would get benefits equal to someone who had worked his or her full
>     life here.
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> 2007 The Washington Times
> 1999 - 2007 News World Communications, Inc.
> http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20070104-120950-4277r.htm

Overthrowing the garbage can called government will call for use of
nose plugs.

ted
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