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Article #706Re: Social Security for illegal aliens
From: tedorn44
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2007 12:35
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2007 12:35
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- wrote: > fucken Bush ... > > ======================================= > > > http://www.halturnershow.com/index.html > > Published January 5, 2007 1:02 PM EST > > BUSH: ILLEGAL ALIENS GIVEN AMNESTY IN THE FUTURE WILL BE ABLE TO CLAIM > SOCIAL SECURITY BENFITS FOR THE TIME THEY WORKED ILLEGALLY > > THIS SON OF A BITCH IS PUTTING EVEN MORE DEBT ONTO AN ALREADY BANKRUPT > SOCIAL SECURITY SYSTEM! > > IN MY OPINION, THERE IS ONLY ONE SOLUTION LEFT TO US: O V E R T H R O W > > > Go tell all your senior citizen relatives how Bush is endangering > THEIR monthly checks by adding millions of illegal aliens to the > social security roles. > > > Click Here > http://www.washtimes.com/national/20070104-120950-4277r.htm > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Social Security for illegal aliens > By Stephen Dinan > THE WASHINGTON TIMES > January 4, 2007 > > > An agreement the Bush administration reached with Mexico on Social > Security benefits would allow illegal aliens granted amnesty in > the future to claim credit for the time they worked illegally. > > The deal was reached in 2004 but never released publicly because > it hasn't been submitted to Congress. The TREA Senior Citizens > League, a Social Security advocacy group, recently obtained the > document through a Freedom of Information Act, and said it > confirms the group's worst fears. > > The document is a jumble of definitions and legal language, but a > spokesman for the group said what's important is what's not in the > text: It does nothing to prevent undocumented aliens who later get > legal status from receiving benefits for the time they worked > illegally. And that comes as the Social Security system's finances > are about to be put under greater strain by the retirement of baby > boomers. > > "If you open up the trust fund to people who have been working in > the country illegally for many years, that bankruptcy date can > only come sooner," spokesman Brad Phillips said. "People on the > other side of this, people who have been arguing that of course > illegal aliens can't get their hands on Social Security benefits, > now can't make that argument easily anymore." > > But Mark Lassiter, a spokesman for the Social Security > Administration, said the agreement doesn't change U.S. law. The > law states that those who do not have authorization to work will > not get benefits under a totalization agreement. > > "To get Social Security benefits, you do have to be legally in the > United States. This agreement does not address in any way > immigration, immigration laws or override current law," he said, > adding that a 2004 law, the Social Security Protection Act, > prevents illegal aliens from getting benefits. > > But the seniors group said the 2004 law also states that if those > aliens later get legal status -- through an amnesty or some sort > of legalization plan such as the one President Bush and the Senate > tried to enact last year -- they would be able to collect the > benefits based on their time as illegal workers. > > The deal has not taken effect because Mr. Bush has not signed it > or submitted it to Congress. Once he does, Congress would have 60 > days to vote against it or it automatically would become law. > > Congress has never defeated any of the 21 other totalization > agreements the United States has reached. Most of those have been > with European nations, with the financial effects known to be > smaller. > > Some lawmakers say Mr. Bush has not submitted the agreement > because it would get caught up in the debate over Social > Security's poor fiscal health, which could doom the measure. > > Totalization agreements end double taxation, so workers have to > pay only into one country's system, and allow a worker who didn't > have enough credits in any one country to qualify for benefits to > pool his or her credits. In the United States, it takes 10 years, > or 40 quarters, to qualify. > > Mr. Lassiter said that's not to say Mexican workers who spent less > time, such as the six quarters minimum needed to pool credits, > would get benefits equal to someone who had worked his or her full > life here. > > > Page 1 of 2 next ¯ | Email | Print | Subscribe > > 2007 The Washington Times > 1999 - 2007 News World Communications, Inc. > http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20070104-120950-4277r.htm Overthrowing the garbage can called government will call for use of nose plugs. ted
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