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"HELL NO"

Date: 04/20/02 07:28:44 AM 

surereal: surereal777@MSN.com wrote:

Raymond Karczewski, (arkent@arkenterprises.com)
wrote:                                                                                                                   
s:  As a believer in Reincarnation and in the Biblical phrase, "God is
Love," I believe in heaven but not in hell. 

rk:  Isn't it amazing what one can do with the "givens" of Belief?  You
can damn near posit anything and therefrom construct any reality you
wish.  Thus arises the Satanic based Intellectual escape from WHAT IS.

s:  I feel that the principal of God being a all loving heavenly parent
makes a permanent hell impossible. 

rk:  So you are saying that GOD doesn't exist, only the *principal* you
presently hold of such Infinite Intelligence exists in your limited
Intellectual Consciousness?  How parochial of you!!

s:  I have asked many earthly parents this question: If you had the
power to make a hell as a punishment for your children, would  you do
so? 

rk:  Hells bells, they do it every day in their present spiritual
ignorance.  All you need do is look at the world they have created for
themselves and their children.

s:  I have yet to have one answer yes, regardless of what religion these
parents maybe.

rk:  Look at the world.  Look at their self-deceiving comments. I REST
MY CASE about the state of consciousness that is human ignorance.

s:   Now it seems to me that if an imperfect earthly parent, with
nowhere near the love that God feels us, could not imagine creating a
hell for their children, what could make anyone believe that an all
perfect, all loving heavenly parent would do so?

rk:  Infinite Intelligence does not create Hell, finite intelligence
(Satanic Intellect) does.

s:   God would correct us as any good earthly parent would, but making
the punishment used for correction  permanent would defeat the purpose
of correction. 

rk:  Why do you project finite limitations upon THAT which is INFINITE? 
Stop glorifying limiting Satanic myths by attempting to anthropomorphize
that which is beyond the ken of the Intellect.

s:  Would a permanent "time out" serve any purpose for a child
or his parent? No, because the child then has no way to put his lesson
learned to use in his life.

rk:  surereal, you're preaching to the kindergarten spiritual choir with
such mechanical, circular, go-nowhere techniques.  Can't you see they
don't work in THIS WORLD, NOW?  Just look at the state of the world that
has been created by such nonsense.

s:  But if God is using Karma by the means of Reincarnation to correct
us and perfect us, then we can learn God's lessons and apply them in a
spiritual and physical way. 

rk:  Your over-reliance upon the intellectual "concept" of Reincarnation
is your personal copout from LIVING TRUTH IN THIS MOMENT.  You are like
all procrastinators who live on the HOPE of TOMORROW, yet live in the
Hell of TODAY.

s:   Again I ask: What does it serve God to take us from heaven and put
us on this earth with the only goal of making it back to where we came
from, and just to make it a little harder, set up a permanent hell and a
bunch of devils and demons to pitchfork us away from making it back to
him?

rk:  What an audacious presumption to make -- that you should be
"thinking" for God, an holistic entity that no dualistic Intellect can
grasp.  See what I mean about the ignorant (limited) "givens" of belief?

s:   Does this sound like a God of Love? 

rk:  Rise above your present limited, conditioned, dualistic 
intellectual state.  Allow the Resurrection of the nondualistic Spirit
of Divine Intelligence to emerge.  There you will find your answer.  Did
not a Brother Christ say some 2000 years ago  that one must die to be
reborn of the spirit?  Break the stranglehold spell the Satanic
Intellect has on the consciousness of man, and you will not "think"
love, you will BE LOVE. . . AND THE GATES OF HELL SHALL NOT PREVAIL
AGAINST IT!!

s:   But it would have served and still does serve a lot of men to have
us believe in hell. 

rk:  Look at the present world of Civilized Man with the encroachment of
the Satanic Few who wish to consolidate their power and enslave all of
mankind via a NEW WORLD ORDER. You want HELL, you've got it.  What has
belief to do with it?  

s:   Because if we don't give them control of our lives and our wallets,
they tell us we are going there. This control is    cruel and has many
spirits in fear of a "God of Love."

rk:  Mind control can only exist in the HELL-BOUND Intellectual state of
Consciousness.  When you see the Truth of it for yourself, the key of
Spiritual Liberation is yours to unlock the prison cell of a conditioned
consciousness. In that timeless moment you will live IN THIS WORLD, BUT
BE NOT OF IT.  

rk:  Then and there will the Second Coming of Christ be awaiting all
those who will not give another ounce of their spiritual and physical
energy to support HELL ON EARTH.  Such is the spiritual nature of
BOYCOTT, BOYCOTT, BOYCOTT!!

s:   This control has worked ever since it was written, by men,
into scripture and is still working. 

rk:  Ask yourself who employed and promoted the writers of scriptures. 
Worldly men of power, was/is it not?  Are you getting a glimmer of TRUTH
yet?

s:  But I say that a heavenly parent that creates earthly parents who
would not create a hell for their chidren, would not create one for us. 

rk:  When you cease your "fairy tale" existence, and from this moment
and all moments thereafter never tell a lie, cheat, steal, exploit,
initiate harm to another, love your neighbor as yourself, and then
ultimately screw the rules which create fear and resentment in you, then
and only then will you be a CHRIST who has recovered from his Satanic
influenced Amnesia.

s:  Because we are surely made "In his image." surereal

rk:  Screw the image which now binds your consciousness.  Then you will
understand HEAVEN ON EARTH.

                           Raymond Karczewski
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