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I like the site, but one part of your story is not too clear, from the
Patricia Maloney story.

"Finally in February 2001, the Ministry produced a spanking new bulletin
which states at the top that it replaces the 1997 bulletin (by this time
they had received our firm's Notice of Objection and the dozens and dozens
of letters I had written where I painstakenly pointed out the ambiguities,
problems, and contradictions in all of these previous bulletins and their
RST administration in general. I wonder. Could I have possibly influenced
this latest bulletin...). This time, the term TPP is conspicuously absent
altogether from the document. It's gone, evaporated into oblivion, never to
be heard from again--like the do-do bird AND the dinosaurs."

What relpaced the TPP phrase? Are off the shelf computer programmes no
longer subject to PST?

LAter...

David S>



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"Pat Maloney" <maloneyp@plusdelta.com> wrote in message
news:3AD4C53D.CD8EDED0@plusdelta.com...
> Has your firm recently been audited by the Ontario Ministry of
> Finance and assessed for Retail Sales Tax?  Was this tax that you
> never collected, because you didn't know your services were
> taxable?  Do you feel you were unfairly treated by the auditors?
>
> If you answered yes to any of these questions, we would like to talk
> to you.  Maybe you haven't been audited yet, but with 500 new
> auditors hired by the Ministry to target high tech firms, your
> company could be next.
>
> Because of the Ministry's severe problems with their Retail Sales
> Tax administration, we are preparing to take our assessment to the
> Superior Court of Justice.
>
> We have discovered that the Ministry follows a strategy of isolating
> companies under audit, refusing to answer questions or provide
> information (except by the auditing office itself) while under audit.
> Many firms unhappily pay the assessment because they feel
> powerless to challenge the Ministry.
>
> We are interested in hearing from firms like yours who have had
> similar experiences.
>
> Please visit our website, where we are putting together information
> on the many problems we have encountered with this Ministry and
> their RST audits.
>
> www.plusdelta.com - maloneyp@plusdelta.com

Good question.  The point you make is that ambiguity is still alive and
well at the Ontario Ministry of Finance.  My understanding is that, yes,
computer programs are still considered as TPP--if it weren't, then our
assessment would be null and void, but it isn't.

However this raises the issue that the RST act talks about TPP, but the
bulletin doesn't, so the connection between the two is lost.  Hence
another serious problem in the MOF's administration of RST which I have
maintained to be the case all along.

David Smith wrote:
> 
> I like the site, but one part of your story is not too clear, from the
> Patricia Maloney story.
> 
> "Finally in February 2001, the Ministry produced a spanking new bulletin
> which states at the top that it replaces the 1997 bulletin (by this time
> they had received our firm's Notice of Objection and the dozens and dozens
> of letters I had written where I painstakenly pointed out the ambiguities,
> problems, and contradictions in all of these previous bulletins and their
> RST administration in general. I wonder. Could I have possibly influenced
> this latest bulletin...). This time, the term TPP is conspicuously absent
> altogether from the document. It's gone, evaporated into oblivion, never to
> be heard from again--like the do-do bird AND the dinosaurs."
> 
> What relpaced the TPP phrase? Are off the shelf computer programmes no
> longer subject to PST?
> 
> LAter...
> 
> David S>
> 
> --
> 
> "Pat Maloney" <maloneyp@plusdelta.com> wrote in message
> news:3AD4C53D.CD8EDED0@plusdelta.com...
> > Has your firm recently been audited by the Ontario Ministry of
> > Finance and assessed for Retail Sales Tax?  Was this tax that you
> > never collected, because you didn't know your services were
> > taxable?  Do you feel you were unfairly treated by the auditors?
> >
> > If you answered yes to any of these questions, we would like to talk
> > to you.  Maybe you haven't been audited yet, but with 500 new
> > auditors hired by the Ministry to target high tech firms, your
> > company could be next.
> >
> > Because of the Ministry's severe problems with their Retail Sales
> > Tax administration, we are preparing to take our assessment to the
> > Superior Court of Justice.
> >
> > We have discovered that the Ministry follows a strategy of isolating
> > companies under audit, refusing to answer questions or provide
> > information (except by the auditing office itself) while under audit.
> > Many firms unhappily pay the assessment because they feel
> > powerless to challenge the Ministry.
> >
> > We are interested in hearing from firms like yours who have had
> > similar experiences.
> >
> > Please visit our website, where we are putting together information
> > on the many problems we have encountered with this Ministry and
> > their RST audits.
> >
> > www.plusdelta.com - maloneyp@plusdelta.com