🚀 go-pugleaf

hey pierre, i think you forgot the pagp, bhsl, epald, and don't forget the
cnap.  it's amazing how many certifications there.

I went to CDI college and got my A+ certification and I can't find a single
entry level job.
CDI has got to be the biggest scam out there, but I fell for it just like
many other people have.



"Pierre Lamy" <pierre@userid.org> wrote in message
news:3D002A39.A0AA477@userid.org...
> I don't really see the point in a Microsoft cert - too many people I know
that have
> an MCSE can't network worth sh*t and don't know what ports are. But they
can
> bamboozle you with win.ini file knowledge. They usually get cranked out in
2 week
> courses.
>
> Cisco certs are very expensive :( but are portable to many platforms. And
most
> people with a CCNA/CCIE kick a$$.
>
> I don't know much about the Novell and other certs... I imagine they would
be
> somewhere in the middle.
>
> Can anyone here with an MCSE tell me what real-world knowledge you got
from the
> course?
>
> If I had the choice of certs I would probably get the GIAC and CISSP
followed by
> CCNA. The linux certs are in a bit of flux... not sure if there are any
real
> standards out there.
>
> P
>
> Smackey Two-Tongues wrote:
>
> > Certifications are a bit of a double edged sword.  On one hand, they
> > show that you know something about a new technology.  Good luck
> > getting anything like that from a university program.  On the other
> > hand, they are problem for people who need to constantly recertify.
> > Some days I wish I was a plumber, not a lot you need to know after the
> > 5th year.
> >
> > While some people pass certifications with only a rudimentary
> > knowledge of the subject, at least it shows that they have a certain
> > work ethic and that they are willing to devote the time to
> > learning/training for something new.  I think that point might be
> > overlooked a lot.  I also think that MCSE's with NT should completely
> > recertify ... but that is another topic entirely (since I have to with
> > my MCSD - no breaks for me!).
> >
> > As far as financing a site like that? No idea but it is a pretty good
> > site and they have some good practice tests.
> >
> > -stt
> >
> > On 6 Jun 2002 04:23:59 GMT, cx172@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Elat Lerner)
> > wrote:
> >
> > >Smackey Two-Tongues (Smackey Two-Tongues) writes:
> > >> http://www.certcities.com/
> > >
> > >Cool, I had no idea there were web sites dedicated to the topic
> > >of IT certifications. Who finances a site like that? They
> > >don't seem to have a lot of advertising.
> > >
> > >And on another note, I have always wondered what percentage
> > >of the revenues of companies such as Microsoft is derived
> > >from the certification programs. Whoever started this
> > >certification business was a genious. Not only do
> > >they charge an arm an a leg testing, books, what have you,
> > >but they also have an army of certified "professionals" who
> > >are pushing the company's products for them at no cost.
> > >
> > >> On Tue, 4 Jun 2002 21:50:17 -0400, "garp" <garp_234@hotmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>>Does anyone know where I can find more information about a Linux
> > >>>certification?
> > >>>Thanks
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>"Elat Lerner" <cx172@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> wrote in message
> > >>>news:adjnem$cfk$1@freenet9.carleton.ca...
> > >>>> blackjacker (play2bonk@hotmail.com) writes:
> > >>>> > Certifications are about as usefull as toiler paper.  The same
goes
> > >>>> > for microsoft certifications.  The most important thing is
experience
> > >>>> > and a solid CS education.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> You and I may agree on this, but the rest of the world apparently
not.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> In  a major study just completed and paid for by you and me (HRDC)
the
> > >>>> following (surprising) conclusions have been reached:
> > >>>> * Certifications are most important to employers when hiring
> > >>>>    managerial and senior staff (page 76)
> > >>>> * IT employees look for certifications by Cisco, Linux, Oracle and
Sun
> > >>>> *  Employers value certifications by Microsoft and Novell (page 77)
> > >>>>
> > >>>> For more information check out
> > >>>>   http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OttawaHiTech/message/35
> > >>>>
> > >>>> > kaja@digitalschemes.com wrote in message
> > >>>news:<3CF3C028.DA6702C0@digitalschemes.com>...
> > >>>> >> Hi,
> > >>>> >>
> > >>>> >> I have been watching this newsgroup for a while and there has
been some
> > >>>> >> talk as to how important it is to know Java in order to lend a
job. I
> > >>>am
> > >>>> >> a Sun Certified Programmer for the Java 2 Platform with 89% test
score.
> > >>>> >> I am looking for people who want to gain the same qualification.
I
> > >>>offer
> > >>>> >> Java tutoring and Sun Exam preparation at VERY reasonable
rates - I am
> > >>>> >> charging $20 / hour. I just came back from Europe where I worked
as a
> > >>>> >> Java
> > >>>> >> Developer and I am currently working on my Java Developer
certification
> > >>>> >> so I have plenty of time. If you are interested in getting Java
> > >>>> >> certified
> > >>>> >> and want some extra pointers and help from someone who has done
it, or
> > >>>> >> you
> > >>>> >> are just looking to start learning Java to improve your skill
set, send
> > >>>> >> me
> > >>>> >> an email and we can talk more. I have all the materials needed
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> > >>>> >> as
> > >>>> >> well as a notebook so that the study sessions can take place in
your
> > >>>> >> favorite Java place. And here is more about what I can do for
you:
> > >>>> >>
> > >>>> >> The Java Exam consists of 11 parts:
> > >>>> >>
> > >>>> >>         1) DECLARATIONS AND ACCESS CONTROL
> > >>>> >>         2) FLOW CONTROL AND EXCEPTION HANDLING
> > >>>> >>         3) GARBAGE COLLECTION
> > >>>> >>         4) LANGUAGE FUNDAMENTALS
> > >>>> >>         5) OPERATORS AND ASSIGNMENTS
> > >>>> >>         6) OVERLOADING,OVERRIDING,RUNTIME TYPE,AND OBJECT
ORIENTATION
> > >>>> >>         7) THREADS
> > >>>> >>         8) THE JAVA.AWT PACKAGE
> > >>>> >>         9) THE JAVA.LANG PACKAGE
> > >>>> >>         10) THE JAVA.UTIL PACKAGE
> > >>>> >>         11) THE JAVA.IO PACKAGE
> > >>>> >>
> > >>>> >> Each of these parts we can cover in 1-4 hours (plus the time you
> > >>>> >> prectice)
> > >>>> >> depending on how much time you are willing to put in your self
and on
> > >>>> >> how
> > >>>> >> much you already know.
> > >>>> >>
> > >>>> >> Before I send you off to the exam we will spend 2 FREE hours of
> > >>>> >> review
> > >>>> >> and practice tests to make sure you are good and ready because
it is
> > >>>> >> important to me that you get what you paid for and pass the
exam!
> > >>>> >>
> > >>>> >> Sincerely,
> > >>>> >> Karel
> > >>>>
> > >>>> --
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Regularly updated
> > >>>> http://www.geocities.com/NotNortel
> > >>>
> > >>
>