🚀 go-pugleaf

Jee, I feel great, I'm about to go to DeVry in Calgary and take a 
Electronics/Computer engineering program. :(


Elat Lerner wrote:

> SoL (soundoflight@hotmail.com) writes:
> 
>>cx172@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Elat Lerner) wrote in message news:<bnm2dq$e1f$1@freenet9.carleton.ca>...
>>
>>>SoL (soundoflight@hotmail.com) writes:
>>>
>>>>Computer / electronics engineering jobs seem hard to find everywhere
>>>>these days... except for India that is. I have no problem believing
>>>>that there are no computer engineering jobs in Edmonton - at least not
>>>>in the public domain. Feel free to prove me wrong, because I need a
>>>>computer engineering job, and have been looking without success for a
>>>
>>>I don't want to be nosy so feel free to ignore my question:
>>>
>>>Have you worked in this field before, or are you a new grad?
>>
>>New grad, but I graduated with co-op designation (meaning 16 months
>>work experience, the last 8 doing actual engineering work just before
>>the market went to complete garbage in 2002).
> 
> 
> So you feel the market changed for the worst in 2002?
> 
> 
>>>If you are a new grad: When did you graduate and from what 
>>>program? Did your classmates get jobs?
>>
>>Graduated May 2003. As for classmates, I'm sure some got jobs, since a
>>good number of people in my class had family working as an engineer
>>somewhere to get them a job, and there are those guys with 95%
>>averages who study all day but have no creativity - they always get
>>jobs. 
> 
> 
> Oh no they don't :-}
> 
> I remember vaguely a letter to the editor of the Ottawa Citizen many 
> years ago, when the market was supposedly booming, written by an
> engineer who graduated at the top of his class. He said in the letter
> that he could not get a job.
> 
> 
>>A lot of the ones like me, out there making our own way without
>>someone to hand us a job are still unemployed, or at least heavily
>>underemployed (working in tech support or doing web design, things
>>like that). To be honest, I don't know of a single person from my
>>class who got an engineering job, but I have only stayed in direct
>>contact with a few.
>>
>>I know a lot went back to school. I know a guy who went into education
>>of all things after graduating. A prof told me that applications for
>>grad school are at an all time high. As for official statistics, good
>>luck finding them. Universities will brag about job statistics in good
>>times, but right now I doubt they even keep track (no one has ever
>>contacted me asking if I found work). If they it make public that only
>>40% of graduates find work in their field, who would join the program?
> 
> 
> One of the positive legacies left behind by the Tories in Ontario is the 
> so called Key Performance Indicators system. It is a standardized survey
> of all graduates of all post-secondary institutions: universities,
> colleges and private schools, that measure such things as % of graduates
> working in their field of study, student loan default rates, etc.
> 
> 
>>I was told by a recruiter that he sees "hundreds" of engineering
>>resumes. I believe him. It's strange though... those unemployed
>>engineers are a quiet bunch. I know they are out there but they don't
>>make a lot of noise about it.
>>
>>+SoL+
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