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Re: Elgin computers: Ottawa buyers be informed

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From: Scott Wiper
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 00:00
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WITHOUT PREJUDICE POSTED AND MAILED

J Alexander Norland wrote:
> 
> Cmdr (rogie@igs.net) writes:
> 
> In Article #87846 ott.forsale.computing, rogie@igs.net writes:
> 
> ....
> 
> >As for Elgin [Computers], it would seem that something is wrong somewhere...
> 
> >There are always two sides to every story.. Wouldn't it be nice to hear Elgin
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> >[Computer's] story !!
> 
> >Hello Elgin [Computers]....are you there!!
> 
> I support your call to Elgin Computers to explain their position, and
> 
> specifically:
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> -    Are Scott Wiper's allegations concerning the defective product true or
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> false?
> 
> -    When Scott posted his story on the Internet, why did Elgin Computers
> 
> choose to "call in the lawyers", rather than try to settle the issue by
> 
> negotiation?
> 
> -    Why has it taken so long for Elgin Computers to post their position on
> 
> the Internet, a 15-minute job?
> 
> -    Does Elgin Computers confirm the information from the Better Business
> 
> Bureau, according to which a complaint had been filed with them, even though
> 
> Elgin Computers has just been in business a short time?
> 
> I note that rather than post a simple response, Elgin Computers chose to leak
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> a private letter they received from Scott Wiper;  his letter contained
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> gratuitous insults.  Even though the letter was private, I condemned the text
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> without qualification the minute I read the article that revealed its
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> contents.  No sooner did I post my condemnation, when Scott Wiper published an
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> apology, explaining that he wrote the text out of frustration and anger.  This
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> does not justify the text, but at least Scott took the honourable step of
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> apologizing.  Not so Elgin Computers: they ignore us as though we are not
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> worthy of being addressed.  This is another point that potential customers
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> should bear in mind.
> 
> Elgin Computers, may we please read your response?
> 
> JAN

As for the privalte message sent Ms McConkey should have kept it private, and Mr norland do not take 
offence to this but What was said in private is non of your business. Ms mcConkey was rude on the 
telephone when EC called me, she was prfain and insulting that is what sparked the PRIVATE Message.

Elgin Computers has no one else to blame for this entire insodent but themselves.

I am not sorry for what was said in PRIVATE but unfortunatly you don't seen to understand that Elgin 
Computers may called in the lawyers over a private message. I don't think so.

This the text posted on Sat Jan 17 1998 23:01:16:

Employee of EC:

-he started a posting advisories on against elgin computers, charging them with not honor there return 
policy and ranting about about their cash discount policy. (false salnderous and manufactured. Never 
said that you did.) This continues to accuss me of making a HELL of a lot induendos and other false and 
manufactured meanings.


The you go on sir and this is quite disgusting accussing poor mister Norland of being an antisemite and 
nazi with this following text.

-this "other guy" is quotting things like "evil is only made possible by the complicity of the masses", 
and I am sure if could fit the words "genoside" or "nazi" into this context he would.(the "other guy" 
is a good candidate for the ACLU or GREEPEACE IMHO)

Does Poor Mister Norland deserve these inuendos in the above text?

By posting this seriously sladerous inuendos.... Are you not distroying the credibility of the very 
store you working for?

I am now questioning your credibility... As for your support... I don't want it because you are BIASED. 
And If you don't like the page don't visit it.

Yes Mister Norland I said some things in PRIVATE that should have not been said and Mister Fluery I am 
apologizing for those remarks, because I have MORALS AND INTEGRITY.

Mr Norland I hope this satisfies you. 

The page has no such inuendos in it...if it does, please grace me with a court summins.
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From: Scott Wiper <swiper@istar.ca>
Subject: Re: Elgin computers:  Ottawa buyers be informed
Date: 1998/01/19
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