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Re: Master SPAM list

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From: Chris Lewis
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 00:00
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In article <351572c6.79109436@news.ilos.net>,
Arthur D. Mira <admiral@ilos.net> wrote:
>In can.infohighway, scurrg@spamblocker.shaw.wave.ca (Glen Scurr)

>=>There are things that can be done.

>Yes there are, not the least of which are at least half a dozen add on
>freeware and shareware programs that allow you to filter your
>mailbox before you use your freeware or shareware program to retrieve
>your e-mail.

>That is assuming that actually spending a few dollars for a full
>feature e-mail program that includes filters is out of the question.
>On the other hand that requires someone to stop being too lazy,
>stupid, cheap to deal with a problem.

Obviously you've never tried to do this.

The existing filters are simply incapable of handling more than few
percent of the spam that arrives in your inbox.  This includes the
native filtering built into Exchange and Netscape, current offerings
from Network Associates (McAfee) and other similar systems, and all
of the other filters that are currently available.  The people writing
these things know very little about what spam is really like, and their
offerings are extremely limited.

There are a few filters that have the power to block more than these, but,
as most spam is one-shot, and spammers are trying new tricks every day
to get around filtering, it is simply impractical to use them on a
person-by-person basis.  By the time you've programmed your filter to
block a specific spam, that same spammer has mutated to something else
that will get past your filter.

I'm presently working with a beta version of a second generation spam
filter, built to my specifications on the functions required to block spam.
That will eventually get to around 75% or perhaps higher and not require
too much daily tuning.  That will cost $3000 to $10000 per _copy_ [No, I
am not getting any remuneration for working with this software], is only
suitable for major installations.

Secondly, filtering is entirely missing the point - it costs money to
receive the stuff, costs money to buy filtering systems to deal with it.
It's theft.  Filtering is not the ultimate answer.

Our mail systems are intended for our business purposes only.  E-mail
spamming our users is trespassing.  Simple as that.
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From: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca (Chris Lewis)
Subject: Re: Master SPAM list
Date: 1998/03/23
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