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Re: Master SPAM list

#247
From: Alan DeKok
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 00:00
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In article <3516DF1D.C5772DBF@hotmail.com>, Buzz  <purphaze@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>I don't know how spam could just put someone "out of business", maybe youcould
>explain further. I don't get very much.

  *You* don't, but *Freenet* does.

  Think of what 100,000,000 spam messages a day will do to Freenet.
That's where we're heading, and nuclear weapons are just NOT an option
for spammers.

>An illegal pyramid scam should be reported to the police. Is theresome
>difficulty with reporting internet abuse? I thought there were
>agencies for this kind of problem.

  Not really.

>You sound a little tensed out my friend. Private property and it's sole
>owner, are hardly comparable to the internet.

  Bull.  My system is connected 24 hrs/day, 7 days a week.  I've
gotten spam, hack attacks, and almost anything else that's possible.

  These people are trying to break and enter.  I don't care if it's my
house or my computer, it's should be a criminal for either.

>If these spammers are breaking the law then they should be arrested.
>From what I understand they can be traced fairly easily, is this not true?

  They're not breaking the law, and they can't always be easily
traced.

  Junk faxes were legal for a while, until weight of public opinion
forced lawmakers to change that.

>Where did I mention allowing spammers to crash anything? Cannot youdistinguish
>the comparison I made, to condoning spam"?????

  Spam exists, therefore it crashes servers.  It's large volumes of
unwanted crap.

>  "Could of fooled me"???? OK Andrew, I'm going to point this out again.
>I never defended "spam" but defend the right for a censor-free internet.

  Great!  Will you give me $100 of your time (computer and personal),
so I can send you advertising?  Please?

  Somehow I don't think so.  It's a rude thing to ask, and it should
be illegal when you're FORCED to pay for my advertising.

>In my opinion, paper waste and pollution combined with the strip foresting
>that goes on, is an issue, more important to ME than spam. Is that OK by you?

  Fine.

> This is a forum for discussion, not the prosecution stand. I am now
> better informed of spam then I was before this thread, but it is
> difficult to absorb when I have to dodge shots.

  It would have helped if you had approached it inquiring about spam,
and not stating uninformed opinions.

> I would like to help in any way I can, now that I know it's such a
> large problem. What can the average guy do to help?

  Tell everyone.  Tell your ISP.  Hotmail is a *bad* source of
spammers.  Tell your politicians.

  Alan DeKok.
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From: aland@spam.striker.ottawa.on.ca (Alan DeKok)
Subject: Re: Master SPAM list
Date: 1998/03/23
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