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In article <35182D39.E0C498B8@hotmail.com>, Buzz  <purphaze@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Alan DeKok wrote:
>>
>>   These people are trying to break and enter.  I don't care if it's my
>> house or my computer, it's should be a criminal for either.
>
> When you access the internet you are knowingly opening yourself upto
> these types of abuses.

  Not to be rude, but you're a complete idiot.

  My HOUSE is on the street 24/7.  My COMPUTER is on the net 24/7.
What the hell is the difference?  If someone abuses either one, it
should be against the law.  If someone abuses either one, I get mad,
and do what I can to stop it.

> If you run out to the street naked, don't
> blame the police for arresting you. You did it knowingly. 

  Yup, you're an idiot.  This is a retarded analogy.

  Anyone who has a computer open raw to the net is obviously going to
have problems, but that WASN'T the issue here.

> I am also
> connected via LAN, 24 hrs, 7 days. I see very little spam. I post
> all over with my hotmail address, newgroups, webpages, etc...yet I
> see minimal spam, lucky I guess.

  Well, golly gee, ma!  You're so smart the rest of us look like losers!

>If they are not breaking the law, yet they put people out of business
>and crash machines all over the world, then the law should be changed.
>Should that not be the target of everyone's efforts?. As with almost
>everything, the Government will create laws against spam if it is truly
>hurting the average business joe. (eventually)

  Oh yes, let's go stick our heads up our ass until the Government in
it's benighted wisdom Saves Us!

  In the meantime, let's ignore the problem!  After all, if Buzz
doesn't understand it, it can't be all THAT bad!

>>   Junk faxes were legal for a while, until weight of public opinion
>> forced lawmakers to change that.
>
>As far as I thought, the reason for advertiser's fax's being banned was
>because the thermal paper being used was expensive and needed
>to be manually replaced.

  No, it was because the *recipient* was being made to pay for
advertising...  As people have repeatedly tried to hammer through your
thick skull.

>>   Spam exists, therefore it crashes servers.  It's large volumes of
>> unwanted crap.
>
>Please , can you give any specific's, like who crashed when for how long
>and how much did it cost to get back up. I have asked for any stat's
>available. So far only speculation.

  Numbers were posted earlier.  Large sites have 30-60% of their email
as spam.  Exact dollar figures aren't important, and are very
difficult to calculate precisely.

>>   It would have helped if you had approached it inquiring about spam,
>> and not stating uninformed opinions.

> Hey, an opinion is an opinion. The only thing it IS,.....is
> mine!

  It's an uninformed opinion, phrased in a condescending and insulting
way.  (Unlike mine, which are *informed* opinions, phrased in a
condescending and insulting way.)

  If you can't take what you dish out, buddy, go cry to Mama.

> Anyway, no one has given a single example of a major crisis
> caused by spam. I can give many examples of crisis caused by
> deforestation...Like the El Salvador Rain forest, Quote from
> Recovery of Environment:

  Like 30-60% of company resources wasted on someone else's CRAP isn't
a crisis?  What drugs are you on?

> [ blah blah forest crap snipped ]

  Yeah, whatever.  My heart bleeds.  If those people had brains to
plant trees in the first place, they wouldn't have a problem!  Even
so, all they've got to do is run to Big Mama Government, and She'll
solve the problem!

  ($0.02 says you won't notice the parody of your own opinion...)

> Deforestation is a real crisis. I ask again if anyone could
> postsomething real, with real numbers, and real people to inform me
> (with more than YOUR opinion) on the devastation spam causes. Until
> such a time, then I perceive your response as "uniformed" also.

  '30-60%' aren't real numbers?  Go fly back to never-never land.
They ain't got the pills you need here.

  I bet YOU can't give me real numbers on the number of trees lost to
deforestation, the cumulative health cost, replacement cost,
environmental cost. etc.  Round figures like percentages aren't "real
numbers", I want REAL NUMBERS like you want.

>>   Tell everyone.  Tell your ISP.  Hotmail is a *bad* source of
>> spammers.  Tell your politicians.
>
>There has got to be a more effective way then just
>telling these people, what little information that
>has been supplied here. Give me something to
>work with. Where's the beef?

  Apparently between your ears, 'cause there ain't much brain there.

  Let me be pedantic: Someone steals MY resources for THEIR crap.  I
don't care WHAT kind of resources they steal from me.  It's still
THEFT.  ('cause the key word is "steal", not "resources".  Get it?)

  Alan DeKok.
(A nice rant is a therapeutic thing.  AAhhh...)