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In article <35189EF8.289B9C85@hotmail.com>, Buzz  <purphaze@hotmail.com> wrote:

>John Savard wrote:

>> admiral@ilos.net (Arthur D. Mira) wrote:
>> >In can.infohighway, bs904@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Andrew Nellis) wrote:

>> >=>They appear to have no understanding that spamming requires, bu its
>> >=>very nature, a theft of other people' resources.

>> >Theft of other people's resources? Who or which 'other people', and
>> >exactly what resources are being 'stolen'?

>> Internet Service Providers need to allocate hard disk space to store
>> your E-mail until you log on and read it.

>> Spam means they need more hard disks to do that. Hard disks cost
>> money.

>Hard drives do not cost very much anymore. You can buy a tower of
>9-18Gb drives for a few grand, to an ISP with a few hundred or a few
>thousand users, this is not a lot of money to spend. How much space, in
>your opinion, would be absorbed by spam on an average ISP's server?
>Just wondering.

That's rather like saying that after a thief breaks into your house,
bypassing the reasonable controls you've put in place to prevent it,
that instead of jailing the thief for theft, you should buy more stuff
to keep him happy and coming back for more.  Do you have any concept
of what "property rights" mean?  Or trespass?

We _don't_ want the spam coming in.  We tell the spammers exactly
that (in the few cases where we can figure out where they are), and
instead of complying, they come up with new and inventive ways of
getting around our filters, stealing our resource to spam others,
etc.  They are trespassing at the very least.

Various ISPs estimate between 10 and 30% of all traffic coming into
their systems is spam.  When you're talking a few thousand customers
(or, say, AOL's 10 million +), you're not talking about a few pieces
of hardware that cost a few grand.  You're talking about infrastructure,
support, physical plant, space, wiring costs, financing costs, manpower,
increased bandwidth, backups etc.  That costs orders of magnitude more
than the Computer City cost for a few 9Gb disk drives.

Ask AOL sometime how much it costs to provide email services to their
customers.  The answer is up in the 10s of millions.  Then, take 30%
of that.  Big number, right?
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