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Article #336MISC> AOL to give out phone numbers
From: Colin R. Leech
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 00:00
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 00:00
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The only nice part is that those of us with only one telephone line can't be spammed verbally while we're online. :-) Reposted for the general interest from comp.internet.net-happenings: > Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 17:44:56 > From: John Walker <jwalker@tor.hookup.net> > > AOL to give out phone numbers > > By Janet Kornblum > July 22, 1997, 5:05 p.m. PT > > http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,12703,00.html > > On July 31, America Online (AOL) will start making its members' > telephone numbers available to telemarketers who do business with the > online giant. > > Most members, though, don't know that because other than posting new > terms of service in an area that is not heavily trafficked, AOL > apparently has not yet made other efforts to inform members of these > and other changes to their terms of service (TOS). AOL's terms of > service contain rules that outline everything from acceptable online > behavior to its ability to sell member information. > > The company already has taken heat from privacy experts and members > alike for selling its members' names and addresses, along with > personal profiles they obtain from other databases. > > But few knew that AOL also has plans to sell phone numbers. "Once > again, AOL is surreptitiously disclosing information about their > customers without any notice," said David Banisar, staff counsel with > Electronic Privacy Information Center, an Internet privacy advocacy > organization. > > "As an AOL subscriber, I received no notice. People are not > disclosing this information so they can be bothered at dinnertime by > telemarketers. They were disclosing information to AOL in case there > was some sort of urgent reason for AOL to reach them, in case their > credit card had been stolen." > > In its new TOS (posted at AOL keyword: TOS), the company states that > in addition to continuing its sale of member names and addresses, it > also "may make the list with telephone numbers available to companies > with which AOL has contractual marketing and online relationships for > the purpose of permitting such companies to offer products and > services over the telephone." > > AOL spokeswoman Tricia Primrose said the company only plans to give > phone numbers to companies such as CUC International, an online > marketing firm that is paying $50 million for the privilege of > selling and marketing its services to AOL customers. > > AOL has been bringing in millions of dollars from companies that want > to get in front of 8 million-plus service members. While the deals > clearly give companies online access to AOL's customers, they may also > be getting something marketers might consider far more valuable: > contact information such as phone numbers that allow them to directly > reach customers. > > "We're not looking at this to give out member phone numbers to the > universe," Primrose noted. "We are wanting to provide subscriber > lists to companies with whom we have a contractual relationship." > > She added that members can make sure their names and addresses don't > go out to third parties by changing their preferences in the My AOL > section. > > Privacy advocates countered that they shouldn't have to take that > step. In fact, Banisar said that Internet services are the only > electronic subscriber services that are not prohibited from selling > subscriber information. > > Evan Hendricks, editor of Privacy Times, added that even if AOL only > gives out phone numbers to companies like CUC, that still constitutes > what he called a violation of privacy. > > "CUC is a large and aggressive company," he said. "It all really > boils down to notice and consent. They're basically doing what they > want to do to exploit people's data, and they continually try to bury > the notice in a place where few people are likely to look, instead of > having a privacy box on their open pages." > > David Cassel, an AOL critic and publisher of the AOL List, usually is > apprised of even minute changes in policy. But he said he only found > the new terms of service "by accident." > > "I had a question about something else and I went to TOS. When I got > there, I saw a small announcement that new provisions take effect in > two weeks," he recalled. "Somewhere in the TOS they promise to advise > members of coming changes. It hasn't happened yet. Since I write about > AOL, I make it a point to track these things. Many AOL users might > not realize they're bound by any new restrictions to the TOS and that > AOL can change those rules at any time. > > "If AOL's users don't mind phone solicitations, it's not a problem," > Cassel added. "But I imagine many of them do mind, and they need to > be made aware of AOL's plans to increase the phone solicitations they > receive so they can make an informed decision." > > Links: > > America Online: http://www.aol.com/ > (AOL): http://www.dbc.com/cgi-bin/htx.exe/squote?source=blq/cnet&ticker=AOL > Electronic Privacy Information Center: http://www.epic.org/ > CUC International: http://www.cuc.com/ > Privacy Times: http://www.privacytimes.com/ > AOL List: http://www.aolsucks.org/list > > ------------------ > > Also in this issue: > - A Channel Changer for the Internet > - Cyber schools serve up virtual college experience > - Competition the New "Domain" Under Registrar Plan? > - Hacker tools give IS a boost > - Learning to stand out in a web page crowd > ------------------------------- > Excerpt from CSS Internet News (tm) ,-~~-.____ > For subscription details email / | ' \ > jwalker@tor.hookup.net with ( ) 0 > SUBINFO CSSINEWS in the \_/-, ,----' > subject line. ==== // > / \-'~; /~~~(O) > "On the Internet no one / __/~| / | > knows you're a dog" =( _____| (_________| > > ------------------------------- > -- #### |\^/| Colin R. Leech ag414 or crleech@freenet.carleton.ca #### _|\| |/|_ Civil engineer by training, transport planner by choice. #### > < Opinions are my own. You may consider them shareware. #### >_./|\._< "If you can't return a favour, pass it on." - A.L. Brown
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 105a5a,58ded41f6fb081de,start X-Google-Attributes: gid105a5a,public X-Google-Thread: 10aaae,58ded41f6fb081de,start X-Google-Attributes: gid10aaae,public From: ag414@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Colin R. Leech) Subject: MISC> AOL to give out phone numbers Date: 1997/08/03 Message-ID: <5s0tpi$pgh@freenet-news.carleton.ca> X-Deja-AN: 261865403 References: <5r7m0k$8fj@shocker.gi.net> X-Given-Sender: ag414@freenet6.carleton.ca (Colin R. Leech) Organization: The National Capital FreeNet Reply-To: ag414@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Colin R. Leech) Newsgroups: ott.online,can.infohighway