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Re: CIRA to dump Magma

#488
From: Bozo the Clown
Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 01:35
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37.1ms!!!!  Holy crap what they hell are you ridding on, IP over crows?

"Ralph" <nobody@uu.net> wrote in message
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> This is the first time I've heard you open your mouth and it looks like
you
> know even less than I do.  Either that or you work for Magma and don't
want
> to see things objectively.
>
> Magma doesn't peer at TorIX, which CIRA will likely do after it gets its
own
> AS and PI space.
>
> If something happens to the major infrastructure at 151 Front, it's going
to
> get resolved a lot quicker than in the outskirts of Ottawa.
>
> As for the packet loss on my Ottawa-Toronto link, how's this?
> 500 packets transmitted, 500 packets received, 0% packet loss
> round-trip min/avg/max = 24.5/37.1/214.3 ms
>
> Not that it matters anyway - I'll be the first to admit that IStop is not
> competing in the high-end colocation market.  Magma might like to think
they
> can compete but they're nothing compared to Equinix or Telehouse.
>
> -Ralph
>
> Jordan Davies wrote in message <3DC548B3.C7227FCA@nowhere.com>...
> >Everytime Ralph opens his mouth he shows how little he knows.
> >
> >1. Round-trip packet times for traffic from Ottawa to Toronto are app.
> 10ms.
> >It would
> >make no difference whether CIRA's server(s) were located in either city.
> Of
> >course,
> >Istop.com's customers would see a difference as Ralph is too cheap to buy
> >guaranteed
> >bandwidth between Ottawa and Toronto, resulting in packet loss for his
> >customers.
> >
> >2. Moving CIRA's server(s) from Ottawa to Toronto would make no
difference
> if
> >those
> >servers truly are a single point of failure.  "Gee - if this server
> crashes,
> >the
> >Internet in Canada is screwed.  Let's move it from one city to another -
> that
> >will
> >fix things!!"  Anybody with half a brain would realize that the proper
> solution
> >is more
> >servers, spread across the entire country with no single point of
failure.
> >This is
> >how they do things in the US and it seems to work just fine.
> >
> >3. Magma's website says they're building a new data center in Toronto -
at
> 151
> >Front
> >Street.  Perhaps CIRA will be taking advantage of this to improve their
> >redundancy.
> >
> >4. The people that I have talked to (including a couple of folks at CIRA)
> have
> >had
> >nothing but good things to say about Magma, and from what I've heard,
their
> >Ottawa
> >Data Center is top notch, rivaling any other facility in Canada.
> >
> >5. Isn't it weird that to get to Ralph's "center of the Internet in
Canada"
> via
> >IStop,
> >you have to get there by way of New York?
> >
> >Jordan
> >
> >
> >Ralph wrote:
> >
> >> I as well as others have advised CIRA that critical national
> infrastructure
> >> such as the master CA root server should be kept at a better facility
> than
> >> Magma's datacenter in an industrial park on the outskirts of Ottawa.
> >>
> >> CIRA is now planning to move its servers to 151 Front St. W. in
Toronto,
> >> which is essentially the center of the internet in Canada.
> >>
> >> -Ralph
> >
>
>
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