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Article #488Re: CIRA to dump Magma
From: Bozo the Clown
Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 01:35
Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 01:35
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37.1ms!!!! Holy crap what they hell are you ridding on, IP over crows? "Ralph" <nobody@uu.net> wrote in message news:kUgx9.725$Yf1.113214@news20.bellglobal.com... > This is the first time I've heard you open your mouth and it looks like you > know even less than I do. Either that or you work for Magma and don't want > to see things objectively. > > Magma doesn't peer at TorIX, which CIRA will likely do after it gets its own > AS and PI space. > > If something happens to the major infrastructure at 151 Front, it's going to > get resolved a lot quicker than in the outskirts of Ottawa. > > As for the packet loss on my Ottawa-Toronto link, how's this? > 500 packets transmitted, 500 packets received, 0% packet loss > round-trip min/avg/max = 24.5/37.1/214.3 ms > > Not that it matters anyway - I'll be the first to admit that IStop is not > competing in the high-end colocation market. Magma might like to think they > can compete but they're nothing compared to Equinix or Telehouse. > > -Ralph > > Jordan Davies wrote in message <3DC548B3.C7227FCA@nowhere.com>... > >Everytime Ralph opens his mouth he shows how little he knows. > > > >1. Round-trip packet times for traffic from Ottawa to Toronto are app. > 10ms. > >It would > >make no difference whether CIRA's server(s) were located in either city. > Of > >course, > >Istop.com's customers would see a difference as Ralph is too cheap to buy > >guaranteed > >bandwidth between Ottawa and Toronto, resulting in packet loss for his > >customers. > > > >2. Moving CIRA's server(s) from Ottawa to Toronto would make no difference > if > >those > >servers truly are a single point of failure. "Gee - if this server > crashes, > >the > >Internet in Canada is screwed. Let's move it from one city to another - > that > >will > >fix things!!" Anybody with half a brain would realize that the proper > solution > >is more > >servers, spread across the entire country with no single point of failure. > >This is > >how they do things in the US and it seems to work just fine. > > > >3. Magma's website says they're building a new data center in Toronto - at > 151 > >Front > >Street. Perhaps CIRA will be taking advantage of this to improve their > >redundancy. > > > >4. The people that I have talked to (including a couple of folks at CIRA) > have > >had > >nothing but good things to say about Magma, and from what I've heard, their > >Ottawa > >Data Center is top notch, rivaling any other facility in Canada. > > > >5. Isn't it weird that to get to Ralph's "center of the Internet in Canada" > via > >IStop, > >you have to get there by way of New York? > > > >Jordan > > > > > >Ralph wrote: > > > >> I as well as others have advised CIRA that critical national > infrastructure > >> such as the master CA root server should be kept at a better facility > than > >> Magma's datacenter in an industrial park on the outskirts of Ottawa. > >> > >> CIRA is now planning to move its servers to 151 Front St. W. in Toronto, > >> which is essentially the center of the internet in Canada. > >> > >> -Ralph > > > >
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