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UPDATE!

October 1, 1999

For Immediate Release

NewForce Communications is pleased to announce that we will be
integrating our dialup customers with Canada's largest Internet
provider, Internet Direct. We have e-mailed a letter to our users,
but if you didn't get it, please click here to read it.

This arrangement will result in a number of immediate advantages for
all customers. Effective immediately the following services are
available: 56K, X2 and V.90 on a 100% digital phone network

Technical support hours will be extended to 7 days a week
8am-midnight Monday to Friday, 9am to 9pm Saturday
and 10am to 8pm on Sunday.

 * Triple T3 connections to the Internet
 * 10 Meg ATM link to Toronto
 * 5 personal e-mail accounts instead of 1
 * Free new user seminars
 * No busy signal policy**

**due to the large number of NewForce subscribers that have
moved over to iDirect there has been some busy signals,
they will have that corrected soon.**

 * Direct download access to TUCOWS
 * Dialup access local for up to 31
   NATIONAL POINTS OF PRESENCE across Canada.

All NewForce Communications customers should switch over
to the Internet Direct network before Friday, October 8.
We have made this process as simple as possible by providing
detailed instructions. In order to make the necessary changes.
If you have any problems, please contact our support at 723-6021.

We will be focusing our energy on web hosting and digital video
production. If we can offer you quotes on our services we would
be pleased to do so. We're in the process of reworking our website,
so please check back in the next few weeks to learn more about our
new direction. We thank you for giving us the opportunity to be
your ISP. We have enjoyed meeting many of you over the years
and wish you well in the future.

We have deactivated some of our previous services, and are moving
some equipment to our new location, please bear with us during the
move.

Sincerely,

Staff

� 1999, NewForce Communications Inc.




Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

On Fri, 1 Oct 1999 helpdesk@newforce.ca wrote:

> Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 04:25:02 GMT
> From: helpdesk@newforce.ca
> Newsgroups: ott.online, can.infohighway, ott.general
> Subject: Re: Notice to NewForce Users!

>  * Triple T3 connections to the Internet
>  * 10 Meg ATM link to Toronto
>  * 5 personal e-mail accounts instead of 1
>  * Free new user seminars
>  * No busy signal policy**

Be careful there.  Thank you for clarifying Idirect's false advertising
for us.  IDirect OTTAWA is *NOT* multi-homed.  It is singularly-homed to
Idirect Toronto via a 10Meg ATM circuit.

Singularly homed, non-T3 connections...makes you just want to shake your
head.  How, pray tell, does a company such as Idirect get away with such
false advertising?  Sad, sad, sad.
 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Staff
> © 1999, NewForce Communications Inc.

With sincerity, I say it's a shame to see you go.  Newforce was one of the
ISP's in Ottawa that welcomed and faced competition fairly.

-Jake
UNIX Administrator - IGS Ottawa
---
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Sorry to burst your bubble, but I tried NewForce for a while, then switched
to Cyberus and haven't looked back.  They are offering awesome service, 24-7
Tech Support by people who actually know their stuff, and their rates are
reasonable.  You'd have to be silly to go elsewhere.
<helpdesk@newforce.ca> wrote in message news:7t1d2l$73l$1@nnrp1.deja.com...
> UPDATE!
>
> October 1, 1999
>
> For Immediate Release
>
> NewForce Communications is pleased to announce that we will be
> integrating our dialup customers with Canada's largest Internet
> provider, Internet Direct. We have e-mailed a letter to our users,
> but if you didn't get it, please click here to read it.
>
> This arrangement will result in a number of immediate advantages for
> all customers. Effective immediately the following services are
> available: 56K, X2 and V.90 on a 100% digital phone network
>
> Technical support hours will be extended to 7 days a week
> 8am-midnight Monday to Friday, 9am to 9pm Saturday
> and 10am to 8pm on Sunday.
>
>  * Triple T3 connections to the Internet
>  * 10 Meg ATM link to Toronto
>  * 5 personal e-mail accounts instead of 1
>  * Free new user seminars
>  * No busy signal policy**
>
> **due to the large number of NewForce subscribers that have
> moved over to iDirect there has been some busy signals,
> they will have that corrected soon.**
>
>  * Direct download access to TUCOWS
>  * Dialup access local for up to 31
>    NATIONAL POINTS OF PRESENCE across Canada.
>
> All NewForce Communications customers should switch over
> to the Internet Direct network before Friday, October 8.
> We have made this process as simple as possible by providing
> detailed instructions. In order to make the necessary changes.
> If you have any problems, please contact our support at 723-6021.
>
> We will be focusing our energy on web hosting and digital video
> production. If we can offer you quotes on our services we would
> be pleased to do so. We're in the process of reworking our website,
> so please check back in the next few weeks to learn more about our
> new direction. We thank you for giving us the opportunity to be
> your ISP. We have enjoyed meeting many of you over the years
> and wish you well in the future.
>
> We have deactivated some of our previous services, and are moving
> some equipment to our new location, please bear with us during the
> move.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Staff
>
> � 1999, NewForce Communications Inc.
>
>
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
>

Just before they go under... (I have read the court transcripts...) They are
attempting to screw there customers for the last time... Just like when they
were livewire INC. PISNET (formally iSTAR) recieved so many complaints that
they shut down their website.

  Yes Newforce may be financialy insolvent at this time. I would recommend
that you continue business with them at this time because of risks involved
with this possible insolvency.


There has been many complaints that I have heard of poor service and slower
than freenet. At least freenet is a bit more reliable.



<helpdesk@newforce.ca> wrote in message news:7t1d2l$73l$1@nnrp1.deja.com...

> UPDATE!
>
> October 1, 1999
>
> For Immediate Release
>
> NewForce Communications is pleased to announce that we will be
> integrating our dialup customers with Canada's largest Internet
> provider, Internet Direct. We have e-mailed a letter to our users,
> but if you didn't get it, please click here to read it.
>
> This arrangement will result in a number of immediate advantages for
> all customers. Effective immediately the following services are
> available: 56K, X2 and V.90 on a 100% digital phone network
>
> Technical support hours will be extended to 7 days a week
> 8am-midnight Monday to Friday, 9am to 9pm Saturday
> and 10am to 8pm on Sunday.
>
>  * Triple T3 connections to the Internet
>  * 10 Meg ATM link to Toronto
>  * 5 personal e-mail accounts instead of 1
>  * Free new user seminars
>  * No busy signal policy**
>
> **due to the large number of NewForce subscribers that have
> moved over to iDirect there has been some busy signals,
> they will have that corrected soon.**
>
>  * Direct download access to TUCOWS
>  * Dialup access local for up to 31
>    NATIONAL POINTS OF PRESENCE across Canada.
>
> All NewForce Communications customers should switch over
> to the Internet Direct network before Friday, October 8.
> We have made this process as simple as possible by providing
> detailed instructions. In order to make the necessary changes.
> If you have any problems, please contact our support at 723-6021.
>
> We will be focusing our energy on web hosting and digital video
> production. If we can offer you quotes on our services we would
> be pleased to do so. We're in the process of reworking our website,
> so please check back in the next few weeks to learn more about our
> new direction. We thank you for giving us the opportunity to be
> your ISP. We have enjoyed meeting many of you over the years
> and wish you well in the future.
>
> We have deactivated some of our previous services, and are moving
> some equipment to our new location, please bear with us during the
> move.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Staff
>
> � 1999, NewForce Communications Inc.
>
>
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

--
My Cat TIGGER says....
Before my morning coffee I might as well be a dog!
For satire and humour... Please visit...
http://www.travel-net.com/~swiper

Here is an open invitation to all Newforce users.  Come to Cyberus, they
offer awesome service, 24/7 tech support, and competative pricing.  And if
you are not satisfied after the first month, than you can cancel your
service  with no hassle.  I've tried them all, and Cyberus is the best.


Scott Wiper <swiper@NOUCEtravel-net.com> wrote in message
news:otyJ3.1100$i3.34032@nnrp1.uunet.ca...
> Just before they go under... (I have read the court transcripts...) They
are
> attempting to screw there customers for the last time... Just like when
they
> were livewire INC. PISNET (formally iSTAR) recieved so many complaints
that
> they shut down their website.
>
>   Yes Newforce may be financialy insolvent at this time. I would recommend
> that you continue business with them at this time because of risks
involved
> with this possible insolvency.
>
>
> There has been many complaints that I have heard of poor service and
slower
> than freenet. At least freenet is a bit more reliable.
>
>
>
> <helpdesk@newforce.ca> wrote in message
news:7t1d2l$73l$1@nnrp1.deja.com...
>
> > UPDATE!
> >
> > October 1, 1999
> >
> > For Immediate Release
> >
> > NewForce Communications is pleased to announce that we will be
> > integrating our dialup customers with Canada's largest Internet
> > provider, Internet Direct. We have e-mailed a letter to our users,
> > but if you didn't get it, please click here to read it.
> >
> > This arrangement will result in a number of immediate advantages for
> > all customers. Effective immediately the following services are
> > available: 56K, X2 and V.90 on a 100% digital phone network
> >
> > Technical support hours will be extended to 7 days a week
> > 8am-midnight Monday to Friday, 9am to 9pm Saturday
> > and 10am to 8pm on Sunday.
> >
> >  * Triple T3 connections to the Internet
> >  * 10 Meg ATM link to Toronto
> >  * 5 personal e-mail accounts instead of 1
> >  * Free new user seminars
> >  * No busy signal policy**
> >
> > **due to the large number of NewForce subscribers that have
> > moved over to iDirect there has been some busy signals,
> > they will have that corrected soon.**
> >
> >  * Direct download access to TUCOWS
> >  * Dialup access local for up to 31
> >    NATIONAL POINTS OF PRESENCE across Canada.
> >
> > All NewForce Communications customers should switch over
> > to the Internet Direct network before Friday, October 8.
> > We have made this process as simple as possible by providing
> > detailed instructions. In order to make the necessary changes.
> > If you have any problems, please contact our support at 723-6021.
> >
> > We will be focusing our energy on web hosting and digital video
> > production. If we can offer you quotes on our services we would
> > be pleased to do so. We're in the process of reworking our website,
> > so please check back in the next few weeks to learn more about our
> > new direction. We thank you for giving us the opportunity to be
> > your ISP. We have enjoyed meeting many of you over the years
> > and wish you well in the future.
> >
> > We have deactivated some of our previous services, and are moving
> > some equipment to our new location, please bear with us during the
> > move.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Staff
> >
> > � 1999, NewForce Communications Inc.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > Before you buy.
>
> --
> My Cat TIGGER says....
> Before my morning coffee I might as well be a dog!
> For satire and humour... Please visit...
> http://www.travel-net.com/~swiper
>
>

> With sincerity, I say it's a shame to see you go.
> Newforce was one of the
> ISP's in Ottawa that welcomed and faced competition
> fairly.
> -Jake
> UNIX Administrator - IGS Ottawa

Thanks, Jake, we really appreciate the kind words.
It was a tough decision, but I'm sure you know as well
that the competition has become especially big this
year, so we're going to concentrate our efforts on
content and hosting.

We'll miss many of the people that we've gotten to
know over the years, some of them longtime customers
from the BBS days, (back when we had monthly get-togethers
and actually got to see a few more faces, not just the
user IDs.)

As far as the wild statements by Mr. Wiper, well...I hate
to even reply to him, but I do want to stress that:

*No, we aren't insolvent, out-of-business or anything
of that kind.

*Yes, we had an ongoing court case against our ex-landlord,
which unfortunately took a great deal of time, money and
mental anguish to pursue, but it had to be done.

*LiveWire existed as a BBS until March 1997, and was
shut down primarily due to lack of interest, as most
folks got their chatting needs fulfilled by the Net
by that point in time.

Anyway, enough said.

Thanks again-
Kelly Paradis



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In article <otyJ3.1100$i3.34032@nnrp1.uunet.ca>,"Scott Wiper"
<swiper@NOUCEtravel-net.com> wrote this libelous statement:

> Just before they go under... (I have read the court transcripts...)
> They are attempting to screw there customers for the last time... Just
> like when they were livewire INC. PISNET (formally iSTAR) recieved so
> many complaints that they shut down their website.
>
> Yes Newforce may be financialy insolvent at this time. I would
> recommend that you continue business with them at this time because
> of risks involved with this possible insolvency.
>
> There has been many complaints that I have heard of poor service and
> slower than freenet. At least freenet is a bit more reliable.
>
Two words scott,

slander \Slan"der\, n. [OE. sclandere, OF. esclandre, esclandle,
escandre, F. esclandre, fr. L. scandalum, Gr. ??? a snare, stumbling
block, offense, scandal; probably originally, the spring of a trap, and
akin to Skr. skand to spring, leap. See Scan, and cf. Scandal.] 1. A
false tale or report maliciously uttered, tending to injure the
reputation of another; the malicious utterance of defamatory reports;
the dissemination of malicious tales or suggestions to the injury of
another.

libel \Li"bel\, v. t. [imp. & p. p. Libeled (-b[e^]ld) or Libelled; p.
pr. & vb. n. Libeling or Libelling.] 1. To defame, or expose to public
hatred, contempt, or ridicule, by a writing, picture, sign, etc.; to
lampoon.

IMHO, it appears that NewForce is willing to sue to protect their
business. ISP's in Canada have been held responsible for their users
webpage content. I am surprised that you still have an account anywhere
in Ottawa!

MB


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

> I have made some changes to my website...
>
What you ran a spell check????

> I know in the local business I am well hated.. But if that few I
> have mentioned it is motivating factor to mend there ways. I know
> that some of you think I am of questionable mentality. That is your
> opinion but since you take the time to attempt to discredit me is >
> showing that YOU are reading my pages.
>
Ya, people slow down to stare at traffic accidents too, your point is???
>
> I have mentioned NewForces possible financial troubles that may
> have stemmed them to sell of their dial-up accounts to Idirect.
> This sale may be possibly illegal.
>
WHY? You didn't complain when Synapse sold to AEI in Montreal, or
when Intranet sold to Magma, or Fonorola bought Magi.com... This
is not uncommon in the dialup business. In the last year sevearal
local ISPs closed leaving their users stranded. From what I see
Newforce found a provider so their users weren't left out in the
cold
>
> But I have checked the court transcripts on this issue. This may
> also affect "THE CLONES SOCIETY". It may in your best interest to
> avoid these establishments until these issues are resolved.
> Their may be a move to Quebec to avoid these issues.
>
How the HELL does the Clone's get into this? What exactly do the
court transcripts say, I am surprised you can read with you head
so far up your ass!!!
>
A pile of nonsence deleted!
>
>
Just another posting from the guy the local business community loves to
hate...


18:29 10/15/1999
--
My cat Tigger says,,, Before my morning coffee.
I might as well be a dog!
For satire visit,,,,
Http://www.travel-net.com/~swiper


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

> I have made some changes to my website...
>
What you ran a spell check????

> I know in the local business I am well hated.. But if that few I
> have mentioned it is motivating factor to mend there ways. I know
> that some of you think I am of questionable mentality. That is your
> opinion but since you take the time to attempt to discredit me is >
> showing that YOU are reading my pages.
>
Ya, people slow down to stare at traffic accidents too, your point is???
>
> I have mentioned NewForces possible financial troubles that may
> have stemmed them to sell of their dial-up accounts to Idirect.
> This sale may be possibly illegal.
>
WHY? You didn't complain when Synapse sold to AEI in Montreal, or
when Intranet sold to Magma, or Fonorola bought Magi.com... This
is not uncommon in the dialup business. In the last year sevearal
local ISPs closed leaving their users stranded. From what I see
Newforce found a provider so their users weren't left out in the
cold
>
> But I have checked the court transcripts on this issue. This may
> also affect "THE CLONES SOCIETY". It may in your best interest to
> avoid these establishments until these issues are resolved.
> Their may be a move to Quebec to avoid these issues.
>
How the HELL does the Clone's get into this? What exactly do the
court transcripts say, I am surprised you can read with you head
so far up your ass!!!
>
A pile of nonsence deleted!
>
>
Just another posting from the guy the local business community loves to
hate...


18:29 10/15/1999
--
My cat Tigger says,,, Before my morning coffee.
I might as well be a dog!
For satire visit,,,,
Http://www.travel-net.com/~swiper


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

> I have made some changes to my website...
>
What you ran a spell check????

> I know in the local business I am well hated.. But if that few I
> have mentioned it is motivating factor to mend there ways. I know
> that some of you think I am of questionable mentality. That is your
> opinion but since you take the time to attempt to discredit me is >
> showing that YOU are reading my pages.
>
Ya, people slow down to stare at traffic accidents too, your point is???
>
> I have mentioned NewForces possible financial troubles that may
> have stemmed them to sell of their dial-up accounts to Idirect.
> This sale may be possibly illegal.
>
WHY? You didn't complain when Synapse sold to AEI in Montreal, or
when Intranet sold to Magma, or Fonorola bought Magi.com... This
is not uncommon in the dialup business. In the last year sevearal
local ISPs closed leaving their users stranded. From what I see
Newforce found a provider so their users weren't left out in the
cold
>
> But I have checked the court transcripts on this issue. This may
> also affect "THE CLONES SOCIETY". It may in your best interest to
> avoid these establishments until these issues are resolved.
> Their may be a move to Quebec to avoid these issues.
>
How the HELL does the Clone's get into this? What exactly do the
court transcripts say, I am surprised you can read with you head
so far up your ass!!!
>
A pile of nonsence deleted!
>
>
Just another posting from the guy the local business community loves to
hate...


18:29 10/15/1999
--
My cat Tigger says,,, Before my morning coffee.
I might as well be a dog!
For satire visit,,,,
Http://www.travel-net.com/~swiper


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

Hello
I am concerned .. I just began getting emails from others these past few
days, and today was the first time I have gone to view them.

There are several messages with Threats in them.  If trhese are jokes,
they are sick.  Should I email them to you.? I live in the United
States.. I am not sure how I even got on a list from Canada !!!

Thanks for any assistance you can offer

Carla Dolney
kencarla@bellatlantic.net
=========================

helpdesk@newforce.ca wrote:

> UPDATE!
>
> October 1, 1999
>
> For Immediate Release
>
> NewForce Communications is pleased to announce that we will be
> integrating our dialup customers with Canada's largest Internet
> provider, Internet Direct. We have e-mailed a letter to our users,
> but if you didn't get it, please click here to read it.
>
> This arrangement will result in a number of immediate advantages for
> all customers. Effective immediately the following services are
> available: 56K, X2 and V.90 on a 100% digital phone network
>
> Technical support hours will be extended to 7 days a week
> 8am-midnight Monday to Friday, 9am to 9pm Saturday
> and 10am to 8pm on Sunday.
>
>  * Triple T3 connections to the Internet
>  * 10 Meg ATM link to Toronto
>  * 5 personal e-mail accounts instead of 1
>  * Free new user seminars
>  * No busy signal policy**
>
> **due to the large number of NewForce subscribers that have
> moved over to iDirect there has been some busy signals,
> they will have that corrected soon.**
>
>  * Direct download access to TUCOWS
>  * Dialup access local for up to 31
>    NATIONAL POINTS OF PRESENCE across Canada.
>
> All NewForce Communications customers should switch over
> to the Internet Direct network before Friday, October 8.
> We have made this process as simple as possible by providing
> detailed instructions. In order to make the necessary changes.
> If you have any problems, please contact our support at 723-6021.
>
> We will be focusing our energy on web hosting and digital video
> production. If we can offer you quotes on our services we would
> be pleased to do so. We're in the process of reworking our website,
> so please check back in the next few weeks to learn more about our
> new direction. We thank you for giving us the opportunity to be
> your ISP. We have enjoyed meeting many of you over the years
> and wish you well in the future.
>
> We have deactivated some of our previous services, and are moving
> some equipment to our new location, please bear with us during the
> move.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Staff
>
> � 1999, NewForce Communications Inc.
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

What kind of threats?  can you post them, or send them to me in email?
Sounds interesting.

kencarla wrote:

> Hello
> I am concerned .. I just began getting emails from others these past few
> days, and today was the first time I have gone to view them.
>
> There are several messages with Threats in them.  If trhese are jokes,
> they are sick.  Should I email them to you.? I live in the United
> States.. I am not sure how I even got on a list from Canada !!!
>
> Thanks for any assistance you can offer
>
> Carla Dolney
> kencarla@bellatlantic.net
> =========================
>
> helpdesk@newforce.ca wrote:
>
> > UPDATE!
> >
> > October 1, 1999
> >
> > For Immediate Release
> >
> > NewForce Communications is pleased to announce that we will be
> > integrating our dialup customers with Canada's largest Internet
> > provider, Internet Direct. We have e-mailed a letter to our users,
> > but if you didn't get it, please click here to read it.
> >
> > This arrangement will result in a number of immediate advantages for
> > all customers. Effective immediately the following services are
> > available: 56K, X2 and V.90 on a 100% digital phone network
> >
> > Technical support hours will be extended to 7 days a week
> > 8am-midnight Monday to Friday, 9am to 9pm Saturday
> > and 10am to 8pm on Sunday.
> >
> >  * Triple T3 connections to the Internet
> >  * 10 Meg ATM link to Toronto
> >  * 5 personal e-mail accounts instead of 1
> >  * Free new user seminars
> >  * No busy signal policy**
> >
> > **due to the large number of NewForce subscribers that have
> > moved over to iDirect there has been some busy signals,
> > they will have that corrected soon.**
> >
> >  * Direct download access to TUCOWS
> >  * Dialup access local for up to 31
> >    NATIONAL POINTS OF PRESENCE across Canada.
> >
> > All NewForce Communications customers should switch over
> > to the Internet Direct network before Friday, October 8.
> > We have made this process as simple as possible by providing
> > detailed instructions. In order to make the necessary changes.
> > If you have any problems, please contact our support at 723-6021.
> >
> > We will be focusing our energy on web hosting and digital video
> > production. If we can offer you quotes on our services we would
> > be pleased to do so. We're in the process of reworking our website,
> > so please check back in the next few weeks to learn more about our
> > new direction. We thank you for giving us the opportunity to be
> > your ISP. We have enjoyed meeting many of you over the years
> > and wish you well in the future.
> >
> > We have deactivated some of our previous services, and are moving
> > some equipment to our new location, please bear with us during the
> > move.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Staff
> >
> > � 1999, NewForce Communications Inc.
> >
> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > Before you buy.