🚀 go-pugleaf

Amy wrote:
> 
> I hope that none of you ever have to deal with users breaking into your
> Hotmail account and sending out emails under your name.  In seeking help
> for this very same situation, instead of help I got automated responses
> about why spam isn't tolerated, and then they closed my account without
> warning.
> 
> Just had to vent.
> 
> For those that I've missed, my new address (embarrassed to say I still
> need hotmail) is allaboutamy2001@hotmail.com

I've been having similar problems, only the spam that's supposedly sent
by me is sent straight back to me. The address that shoes up under "sent
by" is mine, but I just have no interest in sending myself information
on caesar salad diet recipes, hot naked teens on camera (unless it's
Prince William), nor do I ever think I'm the next $25,000 winner. 

My question is: does someone have to break into my account in order for
those messages to appear to have been sent by me? Is it possible I'm not
the only one getting "my" spam?

In any case, I've had enough with the spam spam spam. It doesn't even
come with toast, eggs, beans or bacon.

In article <399B1BA2.A0D40688@hotmail.com>,
  Dre <draeya@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Amy wrote:
> >
> > I hope that none of you ever have to deal with users breaking into
> > your Hotmail account and sending out emails under your name. In
> > seeking help for this very same situation, instead of help I got
> > automated responses about why spam isn't tolerated, and then they
> > closed my account without warning.
> I've been having similar problems, only the spam that's supposedly
> sent by me is sent straight back to me. The address that shoes up
> under "sent by" is mine, but I just have no interest in sending
> myself information on caesar salad diet recipes, hot naked teens on
> camera (unless it's Prince William), nor do I ever think I'm the next
> $25,000 winner.
> My question is: does someone have to break into my account in order
> for those messages to appear to have been sent by me? Is it possible
> I'm not the only one getting "my" spam?

answer: nope. most spam i get "comes from" made-up non-addresses (like
jskldjf@jdlfja.com). it's easy enough for mere mortals like myself to
change the "reply-to" so it must be easy as pie for professional bad
guys to change "sent by."

> In any case, I've had enough with the spam spam spam. It doesn't even
> come with toast, eggs, beans or bacon.

i visited a free-email site (excite? hotbot? i don't remember which
one) to see their spam policy. most of it had to do with a history of
spam the food and a disclaimer that they did not intend to offend
spam's creators!

 - jennifer (do they really think anyone would confuse spam with spam?)


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

allaboutamy@hotmail.com (Amy) wrote in <399AD937.9E568D79@hotmail.com>:

>For those that I've missed, my new address (embarrassed to say I still
>need hotmail) is allaboutamy2001@hotmail.com

Hi,

I used to use Hotmail, but now use mail.com.  I have found it to be far 
better than hotmail, and you can choose fun addreses (@cheerful.com, 
@loveable.com), you can get your e-mail automatically forwarded to another 
address, and also use spam filtering.  So if it isn't actually hotmail that 
you need, but rather a similar (but better) web-based e-mail account, then 
try http://www.mail.com

Martha2Mary

-- 
(To reply by e-mail, remove Windows)

Dre <draeya@hotmail.com> wrote in article
<399B1BA2.A0D40688@hotmail.com>...
> My question is: does someone have to break into my account in order for
> those messages to appear to have been sent by me? 
> 
No.
-- 
To respond via e-mail, remove all occurrences of the word "dot" from the
reply address.

Tara wrote:
> 
> I've actually been trying to close my Hotmail account, with no success.
> Maybe I need to send out spam???
> 
> Tara

I'm pretty sure that if you don't access it for something like 60 days,
it will be automatically shut down.

Dre wrote (no I didn't):
> 
> Dre wrote:
> >
> > Amy wrote:
> > >
> > > I hope that none of you ever have to deal with users breaking into your
> > > Hotmail account and sending out emails under your name.  In seeking help
> > > for this very same situation, instead of help I got automated responses
> > > about why spam isn't tolerated, and then they closed my account without
> > > warning.
> > >
> > > Just had to vent.
> > >
> > > For those that I've missed, my new address (embarrassed to say I still
> > > need hotmail) is allaboutamy2001@hotmail.com
> >
> > I've been having similar problems, only the spam that's supposedly sent
> > by me is sent straight back to me. The address that shoes up under "sent
> > by" is mine, but I just have no interest in sending myself information
> > on caesar salad diet recipes, hot naked teens on camera (unless it's
> > Prince William), nor do I ever think I'm the next $25,000 winner.
> >
> > My question is: does someone have to break into my account in order for
> > those messages to appear to have been sent by me? Is it possible I'm not
> > the only one getting "my" spam?
> 
> Come to think of it, it isn't quite so difficult as I had imagined.
> 
When I find out which one of you used my name and posted this (I have an
idea), you'll want to watch for falling pianos whenever you walk about.
For reference on how to protect yourself, see 1950s "Duck and Cover"
educational video.

> > In any case, I've had enough with the spam spam spam. It doesn't even
> > come with toast, eggs, beans or bacon.

Dre wrote:

> When I find out which one of you used my name and posted this (I have an
> idea), you'll want to watch for falling pianos whenever you walk about.
> For reference on how to protect yourself, see 1950s "Duck and Cover"
> educational video.
> 

I presume you think this was me, but before you drop a piano on me,
allow me to remind you of Isaiah 5:20, Woe unto them that call evil good
and good evil. Do you hear me? Woe. Woe!

SCK wrote:
> 
> Dre wrote:
> 
> > When I find out which one of you used my name and posted this (I have an
> > idea), you'll want to watch for falling pianos whenever you walk about.
> > For reference on how to protect yourself, see 1950s "Duck and Cover"
> > educational video.
> >
> 
> I presume you think this was me, but before you drop a piano on me,
> allow me to remind you of Isaiah 5:20, Woe unto them that call evil good
> and good evil. Do you hear me? Woe. Woe!

I can hardly believe that you of all people can be expected to quote the
Bible with much accuracy. While I should consider drizzling a circle of
salt at the front door and lighting another of fire around the entire
house, I'm too busy trying to pick the plastic circle thing out from
under the cap to my Schweppes so I can add it to my collection. If I can
get it out, my new email address may be: yourprincess@scottishcastle.com

Party at my castle for everyone but the devil. 

If I win the gold clubs instead, look for the woman using her driver on
the green.

I read 60 days when I signed up my new account.  But maybe it's different for
different situations.

Miche wrote:

> In article <399C2C8C.AB02A93F@hotmail.com>, Dre <draeya@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Tara wrote:
> > >
> > > I've actually been trying to close my Hotmail account, with no success.
> > > Maybe I need to send out spam???
> > >
> > > Tara
> >
> > I'm pretty sure that if you don't access it for something like 60 days,
> > it will be automatically shut down.
>
> 90 days, but yeah.  I check mine just often enough to avoid it being shut
> down.  The only thing I ever use it for is online registrations.
>
> Miche

allaboutamy2001@hotmail.com (Amy) wrote

>I read 60 days when I signed up my new account.  But maybe it's
>different for different situations.

I think it goes by height.



-- 
Life at work is like a tree full of monkeys, all on different limbs at
different levels. Some monkeys are climbing up, some down. The monkeys on
top look down and see a tree full of smiling faces. The monkeys on the
bottom look up and see nothing but assholes.

"Amy" <allaboutamy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:399AD937.9E568D79@hotmail.com...
> I hope that none of you ever have to deal with users breaking into your
> Hotmail account and sending out emails under your name.  In seeking help
> for this very same situation, instead of help I got automated responses
> about why spam isn't tolerated, and then they closed my account without
> warning.
>
Hotmail is crap.....I find Yahoo a lot better and they warn you if you have
spam.Hotmail claimed to, but it never happened...But there are sone good
email services out there.
Pip

I've actually been trying to close my Hotmail account, with no success.
Maybe I need to send out spam???

Tara

--
www.findapet.freeservers.com
"Amy" <allaboutamy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:399AD937.9E568D79@hotmail.com...
I hope that none of you ever have to deal with users breaking into your
Hotmail account and sending out emails under your name.  In seeking help
for this very same situation, instead of help I got automated responses
about why spam isn't tolerated, and then they closed my account without
warning.

Just had to vent.

For those that I've missed, my new address (embarrassed to say I still
need hotmail) is allaboutamy2001@hotmail.com

"Tara" <tjhansen@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:399b2f15$0$760$7f31c96c@news01.syd.optusnet.com.au...
> I've actually been trying to close my Hotmail account, with no success.
> Maybe I need to send out spam???
>
> Tara

Stop checking your mail and it will close itself.
I think its after 30 days of nonuse they close it automatically but I could
be wrong about the time.





> www.findapet.freeservers.com
> "Amy" <allaboutamy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:399AD937.9E568D79@hotmail.com...
> I hope that none of you ever have to deal with users breaking into your
> Hotmail account and sending out emails under your name.  In seeking help
> for this very same situation, instead of help I got automated responses
> about why spam isn't tolerated, and then they closed my account without
> warning.
>
> Just had to vent.
>
> For those that I've missed, my new address (embarrassed to say I still
> need hotmail) is allaboutamy2001@hotmail.com
>
>
>
>
>

Dre wrote:
> 
> Amy wrote:
> >
> > I hope that none of you ever have to deal with users breaking into your
> > Hotmail account and sending out emails under your name.  In seeking help
> > for this very same situation, instead of help I got automated responses
> > about why spam isn't tolerated, and then they closed my account without
> > warning.
> >
> > Just had to vent.
> >
> > For those that I've missed, my new address (embarrassed to say I still
> > need hotmail) is allaboutamy2001@hotmail.com
> 
> I've been having similar problems, only the spam that's supposedly sent
> by me is sent straight back to me. The address that shoes up under "sent
> by" is mine, but I just have no interest in sending myself information
> on caesar salad diet recipes, hot naked teens on camera (unless it's
> Prince William), nor do I ever think I'm the next $25,000 winner.
> 
> My question is: does someone have to break into my account in order for
> those messages to appear to have been sent by me? Is it possible I'm not
> the only one getting "my" spam?

Come to think of it, it isn't quite so difficult as I had imagined.
 
> In any case, I've had enough with the spam spam spam. It doesn't even
> come with toast, eggs, beans or bacon.

Apparently if you just send emails to abuse@hotmail.com they will ignore
everything you say and close your account.  Or just don't use it for 60
days.  They'll close it if it's inactive that long too.



Tara wrote:

> I've actually been trying to close my Hotmail account, with no success.
> Maybe I need to send out spam???
>
> Tara
>
> --
> www.findapet.freeservers.com
> "Amy" <allaboutamy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:399AD937.9E568D79@hotmail.com...
> I hope that none of you ever have to deal with users breaking into your
> Hotmail account and sending out emails under your name.  In seeking help
> for this very same situation, instead of help I got automated responses
> about why spam isn't tolerated, and then they closed my account without
> warning.
>
> Just had to vent.
>
> For those that I've missed, my new address (embarrassed to say I still
> need hotmail) is allaboutamy2001@hotmail.com

In article <399C2C8C.AB02A93F@hotmail.com>, Dre <draeya@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Tara wrote:
> > 
> > I've actually been trying to close my Hotmail account, with no success.
> > Maybe I need to send out spam???
> > 
> > Tara
> 
> I'm pretty sure that if you don't access it for something like 60 days,
> it will be automatically shut down.

90 days, but yeah.  I check mine just often enough to avoid it being shut
down.  The only thing I ever use it for is online registrations.

Miche

Why do you need hotmail?

or do you like getting HOTmail without your better have seeing it!
"Amy" <allaboutamy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:399AD937.9E568D79@hotmail.com...
> I hope that none of you ever have to deal with users breaking into your
> Hotmail account and sending out emails under your name.  In seeking help
> for this very same situation, instead of help I got automated responses
> about why spam isn't tolerated, and then they closed my account without
> warning.
>
> Just had to vent.
>
> For those that I've missed, my new address (embarrassed to say I still
> need hotmail) is allaboutamy2001@hotmail.com
>
>
>

Wellm they didn't have to break in.
They could've pretended to be YOUR email off their internet account.
People saw your HOTMAIL email, and complained to HOTMAIL about that
email spamming, POOF!  you were cancelled!
so it could even happen to your new one!

--
-----------------------------------------------------
Click here for CHEAP CPU PRICES -- NO TAX!
http://www.geocities.com/cpusale.geo
"Amy" <allaboutamy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:399AD937.9E568D79@hotmail.com...
> I hope that none of you ever have to deal with users breaking into your
> Hotmail account and sending out emails under your name.  In seeking help
> for this very same situation, instead of help I got automated responses
> about why spam isn't tolerated, and then they closed my account without
> warning.
>
> Just had to vent.
>
> For those that I've missed, my new address (embarrassed to say I still
> need hotmail) is allaboutamy2001@hotmail.com
>
>
>

GRiM wrote:

> I do beleive I can answer everyones questions regarding SPAM and also
> hotmail. I work for an ISP.

I work for an ISP too.  And usually, what you say is true.  Unfortunately it's
not the case with Hotmail.  They tell you to change your password, and unless
they're requested for information by the police you're SOL.

Dre <draeya@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dre wrote (no I didn't):
> > Dre wrote:
> > > My question is: does someone have to break
> > > into my account in order for
> > > those messages to appear to have been sent
> > > by me? Is it possible I'm not
> > > the only one getting "my" spam?
> > Come to think of it, it isn't quite so
> > difficult as I had imagined.
> When I find out which one of you used my name
> and posted this (I have an idea), you'll want
> to watch for falling pianos whenever you walk
> about. For reference on how to protect
> yourself, see 1950s "Duck and Cover"
> educational video.

it's actually quite shockingly easy.


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

I do beleive I can answer everyones questions regarding SPAM and also
hotmail. I work for an ISP.

1. How do they send mail from me to me?
Its quite easy and if you know what your doing you can forge the header. You
telnet into an SMTP server and send the mail text based and modify the
message header.

2. What can you do to protect yourself?
Forward the message header to your local ISP or if you know how to read
headers to the sending ISP. Usually something like abuse@isp.com. Should
they find that it was forged they can usually trace the source and check
logs for who sent it. Logs show username or IP depending on service. They
then contact the person in question. The other major thing is "DON'T REPLY".
For those messages that say "Click here to be removed" or "Reply to be
removed" don't do it. This just confirms your address as a working one.

3. As for hotmail...
Use a password at least 7 chars long with numbers and letters. It takes over
6 months to crack a 7 letter pass through brute force. Its highly unlikely
that someone broke into your account. It is possible though. When your
sending passwords on the net its all clear text. Very easy to intercept.
Unless the site is on a "secure" server. As for deactivating your account
the only way that I know if is don't use it for 3 months or 90 days.

Hope  this helps and clears things up.

--

GRiM - "Early bird gets the worm; but the second mouse gets the cheese!"


Amy <allaboutamy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:399AD937.9E568D79@hotmail.com...
> I hope that none of you ever have to deal with users breaking into your
> Hotmail account and sending out emails under your name.  In seeking help
> for this very same situation, instead of help I got automated responses
> about why spam isn't tolerated, and then they closed my account without
> warning.
>
> Just had to vent.
>
> For those that I've missed, my new address (embarrassed to say I still
> need hotmail) is allaboutamy2001@hotmail.com
>
>
>