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Terry K,

Wow! The many shades of grey which lie within your diatribe would present
enormous difficulties to overcome. Many of your opinions probably mean
"usually, depending on many individual circumstances," and by starting to
specify those circumstances, you begin to create a body of law - but we
already have one, albeit grossly imperfect, but having been worked out over
many hundreds of years, and still in evolution. And many of your statements
represent opinions which many others will not likely share, and about which
they might also feel quite strongly.

Do you know of any society which has attempted anything such as you
envisage?

I wonder if your paradigm wouldn't also require a few major evolutionary
steps in the human organism before it could accommodate such an ideal.
Humankind as we know it doesn't seem to have been able to achieve anything
close to a Utopia yet (and I highly doubt that you would find your society
as utopian as you might think), although I think that Western-style
democracy and universal education have made a good start. But whether
anything such as you describe could even remotely possibly attain fruition
seems doubtful to me. Yet. Given the nature of humans.

And then the question arises of whether everyone _else_ in the democracy
would agree with you.

I also find your frequent solution of _jail_ for breaking the rules (_your_
rules) quite alarming.

Anyway, congratulations on thinking freely. Just because you find yourself
alone doesn't mean you' re wrong - nor right. Just alone. For the moment.
That could change. I find it unlikely, not impossible.

Charles

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  Charles T. Low
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  www.boatdocking.com/
  www.ctlow.ca/Trojan26/

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"Terry K" <tkspragg@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
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> How to tame the government?
>
> Audit the bastards individually into jail for punitive damages in
> a public class action personal lawsuit for breach of contract
> with the electorate. NO IMMUNITY FOR ANYONE, EVER, under pain of
> justifiable rioting in the streets and rending by the mob.
> Anarchy? Not possible in a free press society, only publicly
> vigilant justice, undeniable in the end. It is understandable
> that policies must change over time when justified by
> circumstances. Promises must be made with care. Elections must be
> fought over issues and policies.
>
> "Good Government"  excludes excessive, patronistic, negligent,
> wasteful, corrupt, intrusive government.
>
> A gun database should cost each consumer taxpayer about 5 bucks,
> not 500 million stolen from those who can't afford a gun.
>
> Consider the registration program for tires; a scannable warranty
> registration and transfer form should be included with every
> "dangerous" item sold, but not touted as anything more than a
> safety recall item, administered by mfgrs, paid for in the
> purchase price. These days, the registration info could be
> instantly available for any policeman stupid enough to trust such
> recordskeeping with their lives before approaching a dwelling, or
> to see if an individual is in possession of any stolen item.
> Rules won't stop criminals, but their fruits may apprehend them.
>
> Government regulators of individuals' daily lives must stop. Jail
> perpetrators of violence whatever means they use, guns are no
> different than rocks or fists in this regard. Violence or threats
> against nuns, homosexuals, sales clerks, women or men is all the
> same, regardless of tools employed.
>
> Boats must include safety guideline references, which must be
> obeyed under pain of liability, license or no.  Licenses are
> stupid and wasteful, a means to collect taxes from commercial
> users of private, citizen's property like highways, at best.
> Administering licenses is wasteful.  Regulations must be obeyed
> wether you have a license or not. Corporations do not, must not
> ever have rights superior to human beings.
>
> The question of identity is another matter.  Everyone must
> provide their name if asked for cause. Anonymous pronouncements
> of "Fire!" in theatres and elswhere is immoral, wrong.  People
> are responsible for what they say, evey time, unless forgiven by
> victims.
>
> If I want to kill myself with a car or whatever, there is no way
> to stop me, nor should any attempt be made to try.  Educate
> against drug abuse, and assist addicts to live normal lives with
> substitutes for illegal drugs as a medical treatment.   Outlaw
> patents on biological products, unless created from scratch by
> non biological means. Only God has the copyright for life.  If a
> child cannot survive it's first week by the breast alone, it
> should be considered moribund and allowed to progress normally,
> except for specific treatments.  No extreme medical procedures
> for those under or over an age calculated to perpetuate the
> viability of the tax supported basic medical service, considering
> the eventuality of lifetime cost benefits. Contributory private
> plans must be permitted, but participating medical personnel must
> have a quota beyond which they may not divert medical resources
> from basic life supporting essentials to superfluous procedures
> such as personal enhancements, unless their education was paid
> completely by private means.
>
> Oh, I could go on, but if you haven't got the picture by now,
> telling you that if there is no complaint, there is no crime,
> would be pointless.
>
> I'm all for government support of fair weights and measures,
> product purity, public safety regulation of commercial use of the
> citizen's highways, free public and college education for merit,
> medicare, which must include familial hospice expense deductions,
> defense, and free legal support in every case where the
> government employs a lawyer at my tax paid expense to accuse me
> of anything.  I should get to choose the lawyer, who must be
> required to provide a set percentage of such government funded
> work. Freedom of religion includes the right to declare and
> change any day I choose as my sabbath without penalty.
>
> They presently take about 50% off the top overall includin mfgr
> taxes, UI, comp, pension deductions, etc, and that doesn't
> include VAT, HST, Gas tax, etc, etc. I want my money's worth
> first and lower taxes too. Convicts must earn their food and
> mattress in jail, and qualify via behavoir for educational
> benefits, especially convicted politicians.
>
> Audit the bastards!  I want to know where evey damned tax dollar
> goes, after all, it's mine, not theirs!
>
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