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pcp2g@karma.astro.Virginia.EDU (Twisted STISter) wrote:
>In article <53guvf$2qo@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>,
>Trish  <Trish@speedy.ehs.uiuc.edu> wrote:
>>pcp2g@karma.astro.Virginia.EDU (Twisted STISter) wrote:
>>>In article <53gpu6$rv1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>,
>>>Trish  <Trish@speedy.ehs.uiuc.edu> wrote:
>>>>opdi@netshop.net (Alleycat) wrote:
>>>>   <SNIP>
>>>>
>>>>> People have to learn to let parents
>>>>>discipline their own kids in the way THEY find most >effective.-- Alleycat
>>>>   Applause!!!!!
>>
>>>What if the parents feel the best way is to lock the kid in a closet for
>>>a week with no food?
>>
>>  This already has happened....
>>
>>>What if they feel the best way to discipline the child is to have sex with them?
>>
>>   This also has happened.......
>>
>>>Or beat them?
>>
>>   Ditto.  happens a lot
>>
>>>Funny thing, this idea of individual liberty. Sweeping generalizations tend
>>>to be a poor platform to base it on.
>>
>>  So, straying from the original thread ie: we don't need more 
>>guvmnt., you are saying that the current laws that are on the 
>>books are not enough, and you want the guvmnt to add to the 
>>list?  If so, my question to you would then be, what makes you 
>>think any new law or set of laws will suddenly correct all the 
>>above atrocities?
>
>You may note I made no conclusions at all in my post.
>You won't get far putting words in my mouth...
>


  Putting words in your mouth was not the intent of my reply, 
and I am sorry if you misunderstood.


>The point I was making is that complete freedom entails a certain
>amount of responsibility, and many folks out there certainly lack
>that responsibility.


  Correct.  This applies to all activities in all walks of 
life and of course, being humans which are notoriously 
fallible we will always be able to find examples of those who 
do not fit into the "majorities" idea of what is right and 
wrong.   


> You pointed this out yourself in your reply. 
>
>A line must be drawn somewhere; most people would agree the
>above examples represent such a place. However, what if I raise my
>kids to be snake handlers? Or worship Satan? It's a slippery slope.

  Indeed it is.  If you were to choose the above for them, 
then so be it.  My point is, while I may not find it 
personally to be a good choice, or rather a choice I would 
have made, it's not my place or anyone elses to tell you it's 
wrong for you and your's.


>I for one don't trust elected officials to draw all my lines for me.
>On the other hand, what I consider ok (example: question authority)
>may be a heinous act by others.
>
>-- 


  I agree.  As I said, my first response was to your pointing 
out certain heinous acts that unfortunately have happened for 
centuries and will most likely continue to happen (sadly).  No 
amount of govt. regulation will stop it, so for those who 
think that we need to keep adding to the already bulging set 
of laws I say, get real!