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3 total messages Started by Eric Mamet Fri, 19 Apr 2002 20:56
Is there such a thing as a silent one-way valve?
#7
Author: Eric Mamet
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 20:56
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We had a big extension done in our house several years ago.
Unfortunately, the plumber who did the work was "not too good at it" and the
builder realised it only once everything was finished.
The central heating and hot water systems were helping each other
vigorously! If you put the Hot Water on, the radiators became hot, etc...
A couple of plumbers tried to fix the damage and they came up with a set of
one way valves to keep the two circuits apart.
That seems to work (not perfectly) but is extremely noisy.

Because the builder was on a very tight budget at the time, I wonder if this
could be made more silent by changing the one  way valves to some quieter
models...

Hence, the question: Is there such a thing as a silent one-way valve?

Thank You!
Re: Is there such a thing as a silent one-way valve?
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Author: Andrew Vevers
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 08:57
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"Eric Mamet" <eric@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> We had a big extension done in our house several years ago.
> Unfortunately, the plumber who did the work was "not too good at it" and
the
> builder realised it only once everything was finished.
> The central heating and hot water systems were helping each other
> vigorously! If you put the Hot Water on, the radiators became hot, etc...
> A couple of plumbers tried to fix the damage and they came up with a set
of
> one way valves to keep the two circuits apart.
> That seems to work (not perfectly) but is extremely noisy.
>
> Because the builder was on a very tight budget at the time, I wonder if
this
> could be made more silent by changing the one  way valves to some quieter
> models...
>
> Hence, the question: Is there such a thing as a silent one-way valve?
>
> Thank You!

Eric are you sure it's the valves causing the noise? Could it be air bubbles
in the system.

My system doesn't have one way valves, but has electrically operated gate
valves, which shut off or open up the circuit to the hot water and heating
as necessary. When both circuits are in use they are balanced with fixed
valves so the main flow doesn't automatically take the easy route round the
hot water circuit. This is a conventional gravity fed system, not a combi
boiler.

Early on I was having trouble with constant bleeding out of air from the
radiators, until I reasoned out how to automatically bleed them. I thought
I'd come up with a new invention, but it turns out there's a device already
commercially available, not that the plumber seems to have known about such
a thing. The water flow runs into a vessel which is large enough to give
time for any air bubbles to float to the surface and they are then vented
off.

The other thing that helped was to turn down the speed on the pump. Mine has
4 speeds operated by a switch on top. Speed 4 is too noisy, but speed 2 OK.

Andrew
Re: Is there such a thing as a silent one-way valve?
#9
Author: Eric Mamet
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 10:22
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Although I am not even an amateur on plumbing, I am almost certain that it's
the valves.

The system did not work properly but it was quiet before!
Having said that, I'll have a look on the pump speeds

Cheers

"Andrew Vevers" <andrewvevers@environmentalconsultants.co.uk> wrote in
message news:G7aw8.1443$b5.380152@newsr2.u-net.net...
>
> "Eric Mamet" <eric@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:0v%v8.3657$DZ2.857956@news6-win.server.ntlworld.com...
> > We had a big extension done in our house several years ago.
> > Unfortunately, the plumber who did the work was "not too good at it" and
> the
> > builder realised it only once everything was finished.
> > The central heating and hot water systems were helping each other
> > vigorously! If you put the Hot Water on, the radiators became hot,
etc...
> > A couple of plumbers tried to fix the damage and they came up with a set
> of
> > one way valves to keep the two circuits apart.
> > That seems to work (not perfectly) but is extremely noisy.
> >
> > Because the builder was on a very tight budget at the time, I wonder if
> this
> > could be made more silent by changing the one  way valves to some
quieter
> > models...
> >
> > Hence, the question: Is there such a thing as a silent one-way valve?
> >
> > Thank You!
>
> Eric are you sure it's the valves causing the noise? Could it be air
bubbles
> in the system.
>
> My system doesn't have one way valves, but has electrically operated gate
> valves, which shut off or open up the circuit to the hot water and heating
> as necessary. When both circuits are in use they are balanced with fixed
> valves so the main flow doesn't automatically take the easy route round
the
> hot water circuit. This is a conventional gravity fed system, not a combi
> boiler.
>
> Early on I was having trouble with constant bleeding out of air from the
> radiators, until I reasoned out how to automatically bleed them. I thought
> I'd come up with a new invention, but it turns out there's a device
already
> commercially available, not that the plumber seems to have known about
such
> a thing. The water flow runs into a vessel which is large enough to give
> time for any air bubbles to float to the surface and they are then vented
> off.
>
> The other thing that helped was to turn down the speed on the pump. Mine
has
> 4 speeds operated by a switch on top. Speed 4 is too noisy, but speed 2
OK.
>
> Andrew
>
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