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Don Homuth wrote:
> On Thu, 07 Jun 2007 19:05:04 GMT, trijicon <dev@null.set> wrote:
> 
>> Don Homuth wrote:
>>> On Thu, 07 Jun 2007 18:31:38 GMT, trijicon <dev@null.set> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Don Homuth wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Nevertheless, how're you doing with the >$3/gal gas in the meantime?
>>>>>
>>>>> That's the new price point.  Folks are pretty much used to it now.
>>>> So you're going to complain to OPEC??!?
>>> Nah -- the awlbidniss folks are once again reducing refinery capacity
>>> to deal with this unfortunate price drop, so it seems.
>>>
>>> http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2007/06/04/ap3786556.html
>>>
>>> ...There have been large, well-publicized increases in refined
>>> gasoline and other petroleum product prices in April and May. (In
>>> April, regular gasoline prices rose 11 percent at the pump and a
>>> further 10.6 percent in May, according to the Energy Information
>>> Administration. Prices at the refinery gate aren't available, but EIA
>>> estimates that 78 percent of the price at the pump reflects the cost
>>> of crude and refining, exclusive of taxes, distribution costs and
>>> profits.)
>>>
>>> One likely explanation for the decline in the value of shipments from
>>> refineries in April is that output volumes declined. That explanation
>>> looks more plausible when it's recognized there were three new
>>> refinery shutdowns in Indiana, Texas and Oklahoma in April.....
>>
>> Oh NO!
>>
>> They had to do some maintenance?!?!?
>>
>> WTF is up with those guys, why not just run 'em till the melt down!
> 
> Heh -- they scheduled some maintenance.  

And waited for GOOD weather...the NERVE!!!

> BTW -- awl refineries don't melt down.  

Btw - kiss my semantic ASS.

>> The nerve of them guys!
>>
>> How dare they EVER have maintenance done!
> 
> Year after year, though, it's the same story.  Maintenance --> higher
> Prices.

Damn, that sucks.

> Maintenance is Good!

Building new refineries, not so good:

http://www.ohio.com/mld/beaconjournal/business/17309229.htm

WASHINGTON - With gasoline prices averaging $3.22 for a gallon of 
regular nationwide over the Memorial Day weekend, traditional economic 
logic might suggest that this would be a good time to invest in new U.S. 
oil refineries and increase the supply of gasoline.

Yet no new refinery has been built in the United States in three 
decades, only one is in the works and oil companies are scaling back 
planned investments in new, expanded or modernized U.S. refineries 
rather than increasing them.

Overseas, however -- where it's generally cheaper, faster and easier to 
build oil refineries -- a boom in construction is under way to meet the 
growing demand for gasoline in the United States and in big developing 
countries such as China and India. That means that Americans 
increasingly will be filling their tanks with imported gasoline.

``We are outsourcing refining,'' said Severin Borenstein, an economist 
and energy expert at the University of California in Berkeley. ``I think 
that this is primarily because of community resistance... people don't 
want to live by refineries, but they still want the gasoline.''


Congress passed legislation in 2005 to streamline the permitting 
process, hoping to encourage new investment in U.S. refineries. 
President Bush offered military bases to house them. Yet only one new 
U.S. refinery is planned, in Arizona, and it's been in the works for a 
decade.

``There are just a vast number of barriers for a start-up oil refinery 
in the United States,'' said Ian Calkins, a spokesman for the Arizona 
Clean Fuels Yuma project, which has faced environmental and community 
hurdles and now a lawsuit over former American Indian tribal lands.



http://www.refineryreform.org/motiva_shell_neighbor_protest.html

Fenceline Neighbors of Motiva/Shell refinery protest double expansion 
plans in Port Arthur, Texas

http://www.refineryreform.org/PR_121405.html

New Demographic Study of Philadelphia Refinery Neighborhood Shows
Dramatic Impacts of Living in the Shadow of Gasoline Production


http://www.refineryreform.org/community_northdakota.htm

New Refinery Threatens Native Lands
First New Oil Refinery in U.S. in Decades Threatens Tribes and 
Surrounding Communities