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Re: Call Her an Idiot

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From: Charlie Wilkes
Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 19:54
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On 4 Aug 2002 14:26:23 GMT, Merlin Dorfman <dorfman@rahul.net> wrote:

>Charlie Wilkes (charlie_wilkes@easynews.com) wrote:
>: On 3 Aug 2002 20:23:29 GMT, Merlin Dorfman <dorfman@rahul.net> wrote:
>
>: >     Of Bill Clinton's many accomplishments, domestic and foreign,
>: >one of the more remarkable is making Bush I's rickety structure for
>: >containing Saddam hold together and more-or-less work for eight
>: >years.  That it has fallen apart recently is no surprise; the
>: >surprise is that Clinton (with some help from our "allies") was 
>: >able to keep some inspections going, keep the embargo in place, and
>: >keep Saddam from exterminating the Kurds.  
>: >     It is ironic that the collapse of this structure has fallen on
>: >Bush II who must now find something to replace it.
>: >
>: I think both you and Soggy are wearing partisan blinders.  Clinton did
>: nothing vis-a-vis Iraq to distinguish himself as a exceptional
>: statesman or strategist; neither did he fuck up on a grand scale.  He
>: stuck to a modest agenda that recognized the immense complexities of
>: any policy in that region.
>
>     Maybe sticking to a modest agenda that recognizes the
>complexities is exceptional statesmanship compared to what came
>before and after  :-)

Bush Sr. did a pretty good job of implementing his policy.  Whether
your agree with that policy or not is another story.  I'm still not
sure, milquetoast that I am.

But I would agree that Clinton's policy compares favorably with a
planned war to topple Saddam and occupy Iraq now... almost anything
does.

Charlie
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From: Charlie Wilkes <charlie_wilkes@easynews.com>
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