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Article #1194Re: Call Her an Idiot
From: Charlie Wilkes
Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 19:37
Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 19:37
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On Thu, 1 Aug 2002 00:37:40 -0700, "gatt" <gatt@hevanet.com> wrote: > >"Andrew" < > >> : She does have a few good points. Like why does he assume that Iraq >> : continues to be a threat? If you go into Iraq, it could be another >> : Vietnam or worse. >> >> I'm not arguing in favor of America simply invading Iraq, but I think >> it's silly that everyone categorizes any military engagement since >> Vietnam as "another Vietnam". Vietnam was a unique situation, and >> just about everything is different between Iraq today and Vietnam in >> the 1960's: > >Exactly. It could be another Panama. Or Belleau Wood. It could be another >Waterloo. Hannibal and the Elephant Brigade...it could be >another...another....IRAQ! > >Which is not to say it couldn't be a disaster for the US. Just not the same >kind. In fact, it's far less likely simply because of the open terrain and >lack of conflicting cultures sharing the same space. > >-gatt > I'd double-check that "lack of," gatt. My broad impression is that a traditional, non-populist heirarchy exists in the Middle East, and you can't really plant the seeds of democracy in Iraq without upsetting this order and knocking over the beehive. The military goal of eliminating Saddam seems trivial next to the job of constituting an effective gov't for Iraq without a mandate to do so that has at least some regional buy-in. Charlie
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