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"Rod & BJ" <soggy@pacifier.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Robert S"
> > Yeah, when Bush was running for election.  When he started selling the
> white
> > house, they go busy.  When the Florida debacle happened, they (Crooked
> > Corporate Officers) needed Bush, so Bush had to win.  They were
depending
> on
> > him winning, because they knew he would go soft on business law when it
> came
> > to his buddies.  Gore, on the other hand, was preaching populism at the
> > time, which those CCOs didn't like.
>
> I'm sorry but this is right out of fantasyland......

What part of this is fantasy?

> > Well, the Florida debacle should never have happened, but it did.  The
> CCOs
> > sure benefited.
>
> Your right the FL Supreme court should not of stepped out of their
> constitutional mandate and attempted to usurp the FL legislature..... if
> they had simply followed the law and allowed the process to work as
designed
> many confused people would have to find some other silly issue to harp
over.
> Incidently by following the normal and established law d Bush would still
be
> President......What is a CCO?

It was the U.S. Supreme Court that shouldn't have over stepped their bounds,
and everyone knows that.  If the U.S. Supreme Court did follow normal
established law, then yes, the House of Representatives would most likely
have picked Bush.  However, the blacklisting of voters in Florida should
never have happened, and to me, that was an intentional elections fraud
coming from a Bush campaign source in Texas who listed many blacks as being
prior felons, even though they weren't.  CCO - Crooked Corporate Officer
referenced in the first paragraph.

> > Wrong, corporations are constantly seeking to weaken labor laws, because
> > they want to reduce labor expenses to increase investor profits.  Think
of
> a
> > corporation like a nation.  Nations need a system of checks and
balances.
> > Without those, they will eventually spin out of control to do damage to
> > themselves and others.  Corporations have a very weak system of checks
and
> > balances in regards to the rest of society.  So the rest of society gets
> > shafted by these powerful trans-national corporations.
>
> Gesh.....where do you think everything you use, buy and eat comes
> from.....the tooth fairy? Why are virtually all basic consumer goods
cheaper
> in real dollars now than in the past? What makes you think that a
> corporation does not answer to the same "law of the land" that we do? Do
you
> even know what a corporation is?

The structure of law is different for them and their accounting processes.
The Republicans made sure of that with their new laws last year that allowed
such unscrupulous accounting practices to be legal.

> > Bush signed it only because of very intense public pressure, otherwise
he
> > would have vetoed as soon as it was on his desk.  The media itself has
> > become a powerful and influential force.  Even though I'm a liberal, I
> think
> > the media has some public responsibilities.  If it chooses not to uphold
> > such responsibilities to the public, then there should be a checks and
> > balances for such a powerful and influential force.
>
> A mind reader...cool.....what did Bush have for dinner last night?.....the
> claim was Bush refused campaign finance reform....since he signed
such.....
> the claim was bogus. However any such bill limits freedom and
communication
> and ultimately hurts all Americans.

That's bogus and you know it.  Such a bill would help this country by
providing more stable checks and balances.  Bush doesn't have to be a mind
reader.  He has all his advisors telling him what to do.

> > There are too many to list, but Enron and Worldcom come to mind easily.
> > Yes, some democrats were bought out too.  That's why I don't hold either
> > party in high esteem.  I'd rather work with the grassroots efforts, but
I
> do
> > understand the powerful influence of the two-party system.  So I have to
> > sometimes choose between the lesser of two evils, which means I will not
> > vote for a crooked Democrat like Traficant (sp).
>
> Hey Trafficant is a typical Dem...just a little more vocal and above board
> about extra income etc<G>.

Typical Dem!  The Democrats even voted him out.  Your statement was just too
absurd.

> But the absurdity of your claim about Worldcom and Enron is they prospered
> and did their scams unhindered under the Dems and faltered quickly under
the
> Republicans..... You do realize that if one gets a payoff to "help" there
is
> supposed to be a tangible benefit.....you know like the protection they
> received under the Dems. Or are you accusing the Republicans of taking the
> cash and not doing anything unseemly?  Soggy

They did their scams under a Republican controlled House and Senate.  They
put much more of their money behind Bush's campaign than Gore's, to buy
influence on both sides, but never-the-less, they wanted Bush to win,
because they knew he was so pro-business, that he was basically selling the
white house.