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Article #1267Re: Call Me A Liberal
From: gatt
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 22:35
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 22:35
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"trebor@sirius.com.no.more" <user@example.com> wrote in message > >Tim> What gives us the right... It's simple. It is precisely the > >Tim> same source of well of rights that each nation draws their powers > >Tim> from. It's called "self interests"... > > > >Tim> There is no moral obligation to do otherwise. > > > >Great! Let's reinstitute slavery then and be done with it. Slavery and trade tariffs are quite different things. One involves the separation of a person what what we feel to be his natural rights, and the other is just choosing how your nation will spend its money. Then Trebor wrote: > Life for the vast majority of slaves was a meaningless, exhausting > drudgery with death as the only release. How is that different from > working at Walmart or Target? Because even if you work at Wal Mart or Target, they don't whip you for being unproductive. They don't take your children away from you and sell them to strangers, and they didn't take you from your world, chain you to a ship to languish in your waste as you're taken to a place you didn't even know existed and force you to do all the dangerous, backbreaking or humiliating jobs that the master class itself won't do. They don't make it illegal for you to vote, and neither is your literacy outlawed. You can own a firearm or property. You can quit your job... If you think working at Wal Mart sucks, imagine the sweatshops a hundred or more years ago--the most classic example was where over a hundred children burned to death because the fire escapes had been locked so the kids could not wander away from their sewing machines. Or join the Marine Corps. -gatt
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fb1cb,45200f002c4c625f X-Google-Attributes: gidfb1cb,public X-Google-Thread: 1128d6,45200f002c4c625f X-Google-Attributes: gid1128d6,public X-Google-Thread: f824f,45200f002c4c625f X-Google-Attributes: gidf824f,public X-Google-Thread: 107d03,45200f002c4c625f X-Google-Attributes: gid107d03,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-07-29 15:37:11 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!sn-xit-02!sn-xit-06!sn-post-02!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail From: "gatt" <gatt@hevanet.com> Newsgroups: pdx.general,seattle.general,ba.general,la.general Subject: Re: Call Me A Liberal Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 15:35:39 -0700 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <ukbgq98tpnccea@corp.supernews.com> References: <964660956.572137@irys.nyx.net> <cddzcasduac66084644041805@bizaveNOSPAM.com> <86vg6zpbqg.fsf@coulee.tdb.com> <axcaczcasdladd46264041805@bizaveNOSPAM.com> <86fzy2q5c1.fsf@coulee.tdb.com> <31554a99.0207290541.298dbe7@posting.google.com> <86znwao98r.fsf@coulee.tdb.com> <nb8bku8s1atr4memvoi7ac7hrpv3i0qk4l@news.supernews.com> X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com Lines: 40