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Re: How Dubya Got To Be President

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From: Robin*
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 20:53
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"Bill Lindemann" <wcl@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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> Robin* wrote:
>
> > To quote the origonal post, "... it is only fitting that the candidates
with
> > the most cash should win".
> >
> > This inplies Bill Gates will be a lock if he ever decides to run for
public
> > office.
> >
> > If Ross Perot gets stomped, and Steve Forbes doesn't even make it to the
> > primaries, then obviously money has little to with winning an election.
>
>
> The original statement failed to include any observations about the
> peculiar dynamics of third-party candidacy in America.  If it had
> done so, it would have been quite undeniably true.  Certainly it
> is true that, for major-party candidates (Democrat & Republican) money
> talks.  And I think it is still valid in general if one adds to the
> numbers the non-monetary clout of the major party organization, which
> of course itself is bought with copious "soft money" donations.  If
> Perot or Forbes had spent more money than Bush,

You're assuming Perot and Forbes did *not* out spend Bush.  If they didn't,
it wasn't for lack of money.


> plus an additional
> increment to offset the lack of name recognition or the support of
> a vast party organization, they probably would have won instead.
> Money has *everything* to do with getting elected.

Not true. Voters tend to vote a party line, or for the candidate they most
agree with, not the one who is richest, or who spent more money.
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