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Article #1478Re: Those D*MN Californians invade the Pacific Northwest again,.....
From: Lobby Dosser
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 21:21
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 21:21
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Scratch <Larry_Tigard@lefites.traitor.nut> wrote: > Lobby Dosser wrote: >> Don Homuth <dhomuthoneatcomcast.net> wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 14:05:55 -0700, lein >>> <boomer_the_cat@my-deja.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On Jun 26, 2:02 pm, Don Homuth <dhomuthoneatcomcast.net> wrote: >>>>> On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 13:38:17 -0700, pjb...@webtv.net (Paul J. >>>>> Berg) wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> .....California Sea Lions that is. >>>>>> California sea lions have eaten what appears to be a record >>>>>> number of spring chinook salmon at Bonneville Dam, the U.S. Army >>>>>> Corps of Engineers reports. >>>>> Proper animal control means culling that herd. If the salmon runs >>>>> were larger, the predation numbers wouldn't be so critical. But >>>>> since the run sizes are small, then the predation should be >>>>> limited. >>>>> >>>>> However it can be done. If the animals can't be hazed away with >>>>> non-lethal methods, then killing them outright can be justified as >>>>> a means of protecting the salmon run. >>>> Justified for what reason? >>> Predation. If we are to do wildlife management, then controlling >>> the number of predators and their effect is entirely reasonable. >>> >>> Remember when folks used to like to control the number of cougars >>> because they might be killing elk? >>> >>> 'Course, it turned out that the number of cougars had little to do >>> with the number of elk. But we still control cougars that are too >>> adept at predation. >>> >>> Same thing with other predatory species. >>> >>>> The Sea Lions were here first >>> First before what? The salmon runs? Probably not. Sea lions >>> weren't known to be upstream in the Columbia in sufficient numbers >>> to take one of 25 salmon during historical times. >>> >>>> ... and in the >>>> end, if you don't end up with smoked salmon on your plate, too bad. >>> The smoked salmon on my plate doesn't come from the Columbia Runs. >>> >>> This is not about keeping the salmon runs for humans. I'd support a >>> ban on commercial fishing for salmon as well, for example. But the >>> sea lions have started a really bad habit -- and they appear to be >>> teaching others to indulge in it as well. >>> >>> We are the ones who emplaced the barriers that slow the fish runs so >>> that the sea lions have easy pickings below the dam. If we wish to >>> keep the salmon runs intact, then it's up to us to find a way to >>> control the predation and the predators. >>> >>> Killing the ones who have migrated upstream will stop them from >>> teaching others to do the same sort of thing. >>> >>> It's not as though there's a shortage of sea lions, after all. >>> >> >> Looking for work are you? > > > What? Nutria out of season? Honu couldn't gather interest in a nutria > hunting safari? > Well, keeps him off the streets.
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