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Article #1510Re: Those D*MN Californians invade the Pacific Northwest again,.....
From: Lobby Dosser
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 09:39
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 09:39
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Don Homuth <dhomuthoneatcomcast.net> wrote: > On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 14:05:55 -0700, lein <boomer_the_cat@my-deja.com> > wrote: > >>On Jun 26, 2:02 pm, Don Homuth <dhomuthoneatcomcast.net> wrote: >>> On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 13:38:17 -0700, pjb...@webtv.net (Paul J. Berg) >>> wrote: >>> >>> >.....California Sea Lions that is. >>> >>> >California sea lions have eaten what appears to be a record number >>> >of spring chinook salmon at Bonneville Dam, the U.S. Army Corps of >>> >Engineers reports. >>> >>> Proper animal control means culling that herd. If the salmon runs >>> were larger, the predation numbers wouldn't be so critical. But >>> since the run sizes are small, then the predation should be limited. >>> >>> However it can be done. If the animals can't be hazed away with >>> non-lethal methods, then killing them outright can be justified as a >>> means of protecting the salmon run. >> >>Justified for what reason? > > Predation. If we are to do wildlife management, then controlling the > number of predators and their effect is entirely reasonable. > > Remember when folks used to like to control the number of cougars > because they might be killing elk? > > 'Course, it turned out that the number of cougars had little to do > with the number of elk. But we still control cougars that are too > adept at predation. > > Same thing with other predatory species. > >>The Sea Lions were here first > > First before what? The salmon runs? Probably not. Sea lions weren't > known to be upstream in the Columbia in sufficient numbers to take one > of 25 salmon during historical times. > >>... and in the >>end, if you don't end up with smoked salmon on your plate, too bad. > > The smoked salmon on my plate doesn't come from the Columbia Runs. > > This is not about keeping the salmon runs for humans. I'd support a > ban on commercial fishing for salmon as well, for example. But the > sea lions have started a really bad habit -- and they appear to be > teaching others to indulge in it as well. > > We are the ones who emplaced the barriers that slow the fish runs so > that the sea lions have easy pickings below the dam. If we wish to > keep the salmon runs intact, then it's up to us to find a way to > control the predation and the predators. > > Killing the ones who have migrated upstream will stop them from > teaching others to do the same sort of thing. > > It's not as though there's a shortage of sea lions, after all. > Looking for work are you?
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