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Article #1512Re: Those D*MN Californians invade the Pacific Northwest again,.....
From: Steven
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 13:39
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 13:39
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Lobby Dosser wrote: > Don Homuth <dhomuthoneatcomcast.net> wrote: > > > On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 14:05:55 -0700, lein <boomer_the_cat@my-deja.com> > > wrote: > > > >>On Jun 26, 2:02 pm, Don Homuth <dhomuthoneatcomcast.net> wrote: > >>> On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 13:38:17 -0700, pjb...@webtv.net (Paul J. Berg) > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> >.....California Sea Lions that is. > >>> > >>> >California sea lions have eaten what appears to be a record number > >>> >of spring chinook salmon at Bonneville Dam, the U.S. Army Corps of > >>> >Engineers reports. > >>> > >>> Proper animal control means culling that herd. If the salmon runs > >>> were larger, the predation numbers wouldn't be so critical. But > >>> since the run sizes are small, then the predation should be limited. > >>> > >>> However it can be done. If the animals can't be hazed away with > >>> non-lethal methods, then killing them outright can be justified as a > >>> means of protecting the salmon run. > >> > >>Justified for what reason? > > > > Predation. If we are to do wildlife management, then controlling the > > number of predators and their effect is entirely reasonable. > > > > Remember when folks used to like to control the number of cougars > > because they might be killing elk? > > > > 'Course, it turned out that the number of cougars had little to do > > with the number of elk. But we still control cougars that are too > > adept at predation. > > > > Same thing with other predatory species. > > > >>The Sea Lions were here first > > > > First before what? The salmon runs? Probably not. Sea lions weren't > > known to be upstream in the Columbia in sufficient numbers to take one > > of 25 salmon during historical times. > > > >>... and in the > >>end, if you don't end up with smoked salmon on your plate, too bad. > > > > The smoked salmon on my plate doesn't come from the Columbia Runs. > > > > This is not about keeping the salmon runs for humans. I'd support a > > ban on commercial fishing for salmon as well, for example. But the > > sea lions have started a really bad habit -- and they appear to be > > teaching others to indulge in it as well. > > > > We are the ones who emplaced the barriers that slow the fish runs so > > that the sea lions have easy pickings below the dam. If we wish to > > keep the salmon runs intact, then it's up to us to find a way to > > control the predation and the predators. > > > > Killing the ones who have migrated upstream will stop them from > > teaching others to do the same sort of thing. > > > > It's not as though there's a shortage of sea lions, after all. > > > > Looking for work are you? Trying to boost the Oregon Food Bank, I'll bet.
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