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On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 17:31:46 -0700, Joyce Reynolds-Ward
<jrw@aracnet.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 22:15:04 -0600, ef_hutterite
><efhutterite@montanan.org> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 19:46:31 -0700, Joyce Reynolds-Ward
>><jrw@aracnet.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 16:59:52 -0600, ef_hutterite
>>><efhutterite@montanan.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 09:06:42 -0700, Joyce Reynolds-Ward
>>>><jrw@aracnet.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 17:43:55 -0600, ef_hutterite
>>>>><efhutterite@montanan.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 14:46:03 -0700, Joyce Reynolds-Ward
>>>>>><jrw@aracnet.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Let's also not forget that loggers and sawmill workers also have to
>>>>>>>cope with "farmer logs"--logs which have nails and such in them from
>>>>>>>folks using trees as fence posts, as phone line poles, hanging camp
>>>>>>>stuff from them, hanging crosspoles for hunting from 'em...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Let's point to an ambivalent former use as the moral equivalent of
>>>>>>terrorist spiking?!?!?!?
>>>>>
>>>>>It's a well-known fact of life among REAL loggers, honey.
>>>>
>>>>And a non sequitur to protest spiking!
>>>
>>>Wake up and smell the cheesecake.  In some areas, how do you go about
>>>telling the difference between deliberately planted spikes and farmer
>>>logs?  You'd be surprised at how many of 'em show up on public land.
>>
>>Well that's real easy dearie, the eco-terrorists like to BRAG on their
>>doings, that's how they COERCE people = TERROR!
>>
>>Got it yet sweets?
>
>Yawn.
>
>And this relates to what I wrote just how

The strak difference in tactics andgoals!

>>>>>Especially anyone who logs private land, as my spouse did to raise
>>>>>money for college.  You think he'd spike his own trees on purpose?
>>>>
>>>>I think it's a non sequitur.
>>>
>>>I think you're trying to redefine reality to fit your ideology.
>>
>>YOU are the one trying to minimize and apologize for DELIBERATELY
>>placed spikes, bitch!
>
>Yawn.
>
>Clearly you not only are a rude little flamer, you lack any exposure
>or real-life experience.
>
>Typical right-wing fascist.
>
>Come tell me about it when you've grown up and bought a few clues.

Pathetic waste of keystrokes, you got caught minimizing eco-terror and
brought up short.

>>
>>You get no fucking quarter for being a lying propagandist!
>
>Yawn.
>
>Is that all you can do?
>
>Babycakes, if you want, I can outfucking outswear you.  I learned at
>the knee of a muleskinner.
>
>As for being a "lying propagandist," methinks you doth protest too
>much.

I think it's evident you lack the goods.

>>>>The subject is eco-terrorism.
>>>
>>>Like Gatt said (I have some similar experiences with the more straight
>>>version of environmental activism in a different part of Oregon), the
>>>proper terminology is "arson," "vandalism," and so on and so forth.
>>
>>I provided the proper dictionary and federal satute terminology, you
>>fucking lying whore.
>
>My, my, my.
>
>Looks like I found that nice Big Red Button on your forehead.
>
>How much more frothing at the mouth can you get?
>
>>Don't liek it too damned bad, your LIES are summarily DISMISSED!
>
>Poooor baby, did I touch a nerve?
>
>Must have.
>>
>>>"Eco-terrorism" is hyperbole 
>>
>>FUCK YOU LYING CUNT - it is a FACT!
>
>Yawn.
>
>Oh, puhleeze (to the following quote).
>
>As usual, the Fibbies are behind the eight ball on this one and are
>about ten years behind the times.

As usual you got CAUGHT apologizing or eco-terror, ya tramp, fuck off.


>>
>>http://www.fbi.gov/congress/congress02/jarboe021202.htm
>>
>>estimony of James F. Jarboe, Domestic Terrorism Section Chief,
>>Counterterrorism Division, FBI
>>Before the House Resources Committee, Subcommittee on Forests and
>>Forest Health
>>February 12, 2002
>>"The Threat of Eco-Terrorism"
>>
>>Good morning Chairman McInnis, Vice-Chairman Peterson, Congressman
>>Inslee and Members of the Subcommittee. I am pleased to have the
>>opportunity to appear before you and discuss the threat posed by
>>eco-terrorism, as well as the measures being taken by the FBI and our
>>law enforcement partners to address this threat.
>>
>>The FBI divides the terrorist threat facing the United States into two
>>broad categories, international and domestic. International terrorism
>>involves violent acts or acts dangerous to human life that are a
>>violation of the criminal laws of the United States or any state, or
>>that would be a criminal violation if committed within the
>>jurisdiction of the United States or any state. Acts of international
>>terrorism are intended to intimidate or coerce a civilian population,
>>influence the policy of a government, or affect the conduct of a
>>government. These acts transcend national boundaries in terms of the
>>means by which they are accomplished, the persons they appear intended
>>to intimidate, or the locale in which perpetrators operate.
>>
>>Domestic terrorism is the unlawful use, or threatened use, of violence
>>by a group or individual based and operating entirely within the
>>United States (or its territories) without foreign direction,
>>committed against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a
>>government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in
>>furtherance of political or social objectives.
>>
>>During the past decade we have witnessed dramatic changes in the
>>nature of the terrorist threat. In the 1990s, right-wing extremism
>>overtook left-wing terrorism as the most dangerous domestic terrorist
>>threat to the country. During the past several years, special interest
>>extremism, as characterized by the Animal Liberation Front (ALF) and
>>the Earth Liberation Front (ELF), has emerged as a serious terrorist
>>threat. Generally, extremist groups engage in much activity that is
>>protected by constitutional guarantees of free speech and assembly.
>>Law enforcement becomes involved when the volatile talk of these
>>groups transgresses into unlawful action. The FBI estimates that the
>>ALF/ELF have committed more than 600 criminal acts in the United
>>States since 1996, resulting in damages in excess of 43 million
>>dollars.
>>
>>Special interest terrorism differs from traditional right-wing and
>>left-wing terrorism in that extremist special interest groups seek to
>>resolve specific issues, rather than effect widespread political
>>change. Special interest extremists continue to conduct acts of
>>politically motivated violence to force segments of society, including
>>the general public, to change attitudes about issues considered
>>important to their causes. These groups occupy the extreme fringes of
>>animal rights, pro-life, environmental, anti-nuclear, and other
>>movements. Some special interest extremists -- most notably within the
>>animal rights and environmental movements -- have turned increasingly
>>toward vandalism and terrorist activity in attempts to further their
>>causes.
>>
>>Since 1977, when disaffected members of the ecological preservation
>>group Greenpeace formed the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society and
>>attacked commercial fishing operations by cutting drift nets, acts of
>>"eco-terrorism" have occurred around the globe. The FBI defines
>>eco-terrorism as the use or threatened use of violence of a criminal
>>nature against innocent victims or property by an
>>environmentally-oriented, subnational group for
>>environmental-political reasons, or aimed at an audience beyond the
>>target, often of a symbolic nature.
>>
>>In recent years, the Animal Liberation Front (ALF) has become one of
>>the most active extremist elements in the United States. Despite the
>>destructive aspects of ALF's operations, its operational philosophy
>>discourages acts that harm "any animal, human and nonhuman." Animal
>>rights groups in the United States, including the ALF, have generally
>>adhered to this mandate. The ALF, established in Great Britain in the
>>mid-1970s, is a loosely organized movement committed to ending the
>>abuse and exploitation of animals. The American branch of the ALF
>>began its operations in the late 1970s. Individuals become members of
>>the ALF not by filing paperwork or paying dues, but simply by engaging
>>in "direct action" against companies or individuals who utilize
>>animals for research or economic gain. "Direct action" generally
>>occurs in the form of criminal activity to cause economic loss or to
>>destroy the victims' company operations. The ALF activists have
>>engaged in a steadily growing campaign of illegal activity against fur
>>companies, mink farms, restaurants, and animal research laboratories.
>>
>>Estimates of damage and destruction in the United States claimed by
>>the ALF during the past ten years, as compiled by national
>>organizations such as the Fur Commission and the National Association
>>for Biomedical Research (NABR), put the fur industry and medical
>>research losses at more than 45 million dollars. The ALF is considered
>>a terrorist group, whose purpose is to bring about social and
>>political change through the use of force and violence.
>>
>>Disaffected environmentalists, in 1980, formed a radical group called
>>"Earth First!" and engaged in a series of protests and civil
>>disobedience events. In 1984, however, members introduced "tree
>>spiking" (insertion of metal or ceramic spikes in trees in an effort
>>to damage saws) as a tactic to thwart logging. In 1992, the ELF was
>>founded in Brighton, England, by Earth First! members who refused to
>>abandon criminal acts as a tactic when others wished to mainstream
>>Earth First!. In 1993, the ELF was listed for the first time along
>>with the ALF in a communique declaring solidarity in actions between
>>the two groups. This unity continues today with a crossover of
>>leadership and membership. It is not uncommon for the ALF and the ELF
>>to post joint declarations of responsibility for criminal actions on
>>their web-sites. In 1994, founders of the San Francisco branch of
>>Earth First! published in The Earth First! Journal a recommendation
>>that Earth First! mainstream itself in the United States, leaving
>>criminal acts other than unlawful protests to the ELF.
>>
>>The ELF advocates "monkeywrenching," a euphemism for acts of sabotage
>>and property destruction against industries and other entities
>>perceived to be damaging to the natural environment. "Monkeywrenching"
>>includes tree spiking, arson, sabotage of logging or construction
>>equipment, and other types of property destruction. Speeches given by
>>Jonathan Paul and Craig Rosebraugh at the 1998 National Animal Rights
>>Conference held at the University of Oregon, promoted the unity of
>>both the ELF and the ALF movements. The ELF posted information on the
>>ALF website until it began its own website in January 2001, and is
>>listed in the same underground activist publications as the ALF.
>>
>>The most destructive practice of the ALF/ELF is arson. The ALF/ELF
>>members consistently use improvised incendiary devices equipped with
>>crude but effective timing mechanisms. These incendiary devices are
>>often constructed based upon instructions found on the ALF/ELF
>>websites. The ALF/ELF criminal incidents often involve pre-activity
>>surveillance and well-planned operations. Members are believed to
>>engage in significant intelligence gathering against potential
>>targets, including the review of industry/trade publications,
>>photographic/video surveillance of potential targets, and posting
>>details about potential targets on the internet.
>>
>>The ALF and the ELF have jointly claimed credit for several raids
>>including a November 1997 attack of the Bureau of Land Management wild
>>horse corrals near Burns, Oregon, where arson destroyed the entire
>>complex resulting in damages in excess of four hundred and fifty
>>thousand dollars and the June 1998 arson attack of a U.S. Department
>>of Agriculture Animal Damage Control Building near Olympia,
>>Washington, in which damages exceeded two million dollars. The ELF
>>claimed sole credit for the October 1998, arson of a Vail, Colorado,
>>ski facility in which four ski lifts, a restaurant, a picnic facility
>>and a utility building were destroyed. Damage exceeded $12 million. On
>>12/27/1998, the ELF claimed responsibility for the arson at the U.S.
>>Forest Industries Office in Medford, Oregon, where damages exceeded
>>five hundred thousand dollars. Other arsons in Oregon, New York,
>>Washington, Michigan, and Indiana have been claimed by the ELF.
>>Recently, the ELF has also claimed attacks on genetically engineered
>>crops and trees. The ELF claims these attacks have totaled close to
>>$40 million in damages.
>>
>>The name of a group called the Coalition to Save the Preserves (CSP),
>>surfaced in relation to a series of arsons that occurred in the
>>Phoenix, Arizona, area. These arsons targeted several new homes under
>>construction near the North Phoenix Mountain Preserves. No direct
>>connection was established between the CSP and ALF/ELF. However, the
>>stated goal of CSP to stop development of previously undeveloped
>>lands, is similar to that of the ELF. The property damage associated
>>with the arsons has been estimated to be in excess of $5 million.
>>
>>The FBI has developed a strong response to the threats posed by
>>domestic and international terrorism. Between fiscal years 1993 and
>>2003, the number of Special Agents dedicated to the FBI's
>>counterterrorism programs grew by approximately 224 percent to 1,669
>>-- nearly 16 percent of all FBI Special Agents. In recent years, the
>>FBI has strengthened its counterterrorism program to enhance its
>>abilities to carry out these objectives.
>>
>>Cooperation among law enforcement agencies at all levels represents an
>>important component of a comprehensive response to terrorism. This
>>cooperation assumes its most tangible operational form in the Joint
>>Terrorism Task Forces (JTTFs) that are established in 44 cities across
>>the nation. These task forces are particularly well-suited to
>>responding to terrorism because they combine the national and
>>international investigative resources of the FBI with the street-level
>>expertise of local law enforcement agencies. Given the success of the
>>JTTF concept, the FBI has established 15 new JTTFs since the end of
>>1999. By the end of 2003 the FBI plans to have established JTTFs in
>>each of its 56 field offices. By integrating the investigative
>>abilities of the FBI and local law enforcement agencies, these task
>>forces represent an effective response to the threats posed to U.S.
>>communities by domestic and international terrorists.
>>
>>The FBI and our law enforcement partners have made a number of arrests
>>of individuals alleged to have perpetrated acts of eco-terrorism.
>>Several of these individuals have been successfully prosecuted.
>>Following the investigation of the Phoenix, Arizona, arsons noted
>>earlier, Mark Warren Sands was indicted and arrested on 6/14/2001. On
>>11/07/2001, Sands pleaded guilty to ten counts of extortion and using
>>fire in the commission of a federal felony.
>>
>>In February 2001, teenagers Jared McIntyre, Matthew Rammelkamp, and
>>George Mashkow all pleaded guilty, as adults, to title 18 U.S.C.
>>844(i), Arson, and 844(n), Arson Conspiracy. These charges pertain to
>>a series of arsons and attempted arsons of new home construction sites
>>in Long Island, New York. An adult, Connor Cash, was also arrested on
>>February 15, 2001, and charged under the same federal statutes. Jared
>>McIntrye stated that these acts were committed in sympathy of the ELF
>>movement. The New York Joint Terrorism Task Force played a significant
>>role in the arrest and prosecution of these individuals.
>>
>>On 1/23/2001, Frank Ambrose was arrested by officers of the Department
>>of Natural Resources with assistance from the Indianapolis JTTF, on a
>>local warrant out of Monroe County Circuit Court, Bloomington,
>>Indiana, charging Ambrose with timber spiking. Ambrose is suspected of
>>involvement in the spiking of approximately 150 trees in Indiana state
>>forests. The ELF claimed responsibility for these incidents.
>>
>>On September 16, 1998, a federal grand jury in the Western District of
>>Wisconsin indicted Peter Young and Justin Samuel for Hobbs Act
>>violations as well as for animal enterprise terrorism. Samuel was
>>apprehended in Belgium, and was subsequently extradited to the United
>>States. On August 30, 2000, Samuel pleaded guilty to two counts of
>>animal enterprise terrorism and was sentenced on November 3, 2000, to
>>two years in prison, two years probation, and ordered to pay $364,106
>>in restitution. Samuel's prosecution arose out of his involvement in
>>mink releases in Wisconsin in 1997. This incident was claimed by the
>>ALF. The investigation and arrest of Justin Samuel were the result of
>>a joint effort by federal, state, and local agencies.
>>
>>On April 20, 1997, Douglas Joshua Ellerman turned himself in and
>>admitted on videotape to purchasing, constructing, and transporting
>>five pipe bombs to the scene of the March 11, 1997, arson at the Fur
>>Breeders Agricultural co-op in Sandy, Utah. Ellerman also admitted
>>setting fire to the facility. Ellerman was indicted on June 19, 1997
>>on 16 counts, and eventually pleaded guilty to three. He was sentenced
>>to seven years in prison and restitution of approximately $750,000.
>>Though this incident was not officially claimed by ALF, Ellerman
>>indicated during an interview subsequent to his arrest that he was a
>>member of ALF. This incident was investigated jointly by the FBI and
>>the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF).
>>
>>Rodney Adam Coronado was convicted for his role in the February 2,
>>1992, arson at an animal research laboratory on the campus of Michigan
>>State University. Damage estimates, according to public sources,
>>approached $200,000 and included the destruction of research records.
>>On July 3, 1995, Coronado pled guilty for his role in the arson and
>>was sentenced to 57 months in federal prison, three years probation,
>>and restitution of more than $2 million. This incident was claimed by
>>ALF. The FBI, ATF, and the Michigan State University police played a
>>significant role in the investigation, arrest, and prosecution.
>>
>>Marc Leslie Davis, Margaret Katherine Millet, Marc Andre Baker, and
>>Ilse Washington Asplund were all members of the self-proclaimed "Evan
>>Mecham Eco-Terrorist International Conspiracy" (EMETIC). EMETIC was
>>formed to engage in eco-terrorism against nuclear power plants and ski
>>resorts in the southwestern United States. In November 1987, the group
>>claimed responsibility for damage to a chairlift at the Fairfield Snow
>>Bowl Ski Resort near Flagstaff, Arizona. Davis, Millet, and Baker were
>>arrested in May 1989 on charges relating to the Fairfield Snow Bowl
>>incident and planned incidents at the Central Arizona Project and Palo
>>Verde nuclear generating stations in Arizona; the Diablo Canyon
>>Nuclear Facility in California; and the Rocky Flats Nuclear Facility
>>in Colorado. All pleaded guilty and were sentenced in September 1991.
>>Davis was sentenced to six years in federal prison, and restitution to
>>the Fairfield Snow Bowl Ski Resort in the amount of $19,821. Millet
>>was sentenced to three years in federal prison, and restitution to
>>Fairfield in the amount of $19,821. Baker was sentenced to one year in
>>federal prison, five months probation, a $5,000 fine, and 100 hours of
>>community service. Asplund was also charged and was sentenced to one
>>year in federal prison, five years probation, a $2,000 fine, and 100
>>hours of community service.
>>
>>Currently, more than 26 FBI field offices have pending investigations
>>associated with ALF/ELF activities. Despite all of our efforts
>>(increased resources allocated, JTTFs, successful arrests and
>>prosecutions), law enforcement has a long way to go to adequately
>>address the problem of eco-terrorism. Groups such as the ALF and the
>>ELF present unique challenges. There is little if any hierarchal
>>structure to such entities. Eco-terrorists are unlike traditional
>>criminal enterprises which are often structured and organized.
>>
>>The difficulty investigating such groups is demonstrated by the fact
>>that law enforcement has thus far been unable to effect the arrests of
>>anyone for some recent criminal activity directed at federal land
>>managers or their offices. However, there are several ongoing
>>investigations regarding such acts. Current investigations include the
>>10/14/2001 arson at the Bureau of Land Management Wild Horse and Burro
>>Corral in Litchfield, California, the 7/20/2000 destruction of trees
>>and damage to vehicles at the U.S. Forestry Science Laboratory in
>>Rhinelander, Wisconsin, and the 11/29/1997 arson at the Bureau of Land
>>Management Corral in Burns, Oregon.
>>
>>Before closing, I would like to acknowledge the cooperation and
>>assistance rendered by the U.S. Forest Service in investigating
>>incidents of eco-terrorism. Specifically, I would like to recognize
>>the assistance that the Forest Service is providing with regard to the
>>ongoing investigation of the 7/20/2000 incident of vandalism and
>>destruction that occurred at the U.S. Forestry Science Laboratory in
>>Rhinelander, Wisconsin.
>>
>>The FBI and all of our federal, state, and local law enforcement
>>partners will continue to strive to address the difficult and unique
>>challenges posed by eco-terrorists. Despite the recent focus on
>>international terrorism, we remain fully cognizant of the full range
>>of threats that confront the United States.
>>
>>Chairman McInnis and Members of the Subcommittee, this concludes my
>>prepared remarks. I would like to express appreciation for your
>>concentration on the issue of eco-terrorism and I look forward to
>>responding to any questions.