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On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 16:59:52 -0600, ef_hutterite
<efhutterite@montanan.org> wrote:

>On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 09:06:42 -0700, Joyce Reynolds-Ward
><jrw@aracnet.com> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 17:43:55 -0600, ef_hutterite
>><efhutterite@montanan.org> wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 14:46:03 -0700, Joyce Reynolds-Ward
>>><jrw@aracnet.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Let's also not forget that loggers and sawmill workers also have to
>>>>cope with "farmer logs"--logs which have nails and such in them from
>>>>folks using trees as fence posts, as phone line poles, hanging camp
>>>>stuff from them, hanging crosspoles for hunting from 'em...
>>>
>>>Let's point to an ambivalent former use as the moral equivalent of
>>>terrorist spiking?!?!?!?
>>
>>It's a well-known fact of life among REAL loggers, honey.
>
>And a non sequitur to protest spiking!

Wake up and smell the cheesecake.  In some areas, how do you go about
telling the difference between deliberately planted spikes and farmer
logs?  You'd be surprised at how many of 'em show up on public land.

>>Especially anyone who logs private land, as my spouse did to raise
>>money for college.  You think he'd spike his own trees on purpose?
>
>I think it's a non sequitur.

I think you're trying to redefine reality to fit your ideology.

>The subject is eco-terrorism.

Like Gatt said (I have some similar experiences with the more straight
version of environmental activism in a different part of Oregon), the
proper terminology is "arson," "vandalism," and so on and so forth.

"Eco-terrorism" is hyperbole by logging company publicists trying to
drum up sympathy.  To get a nice little inside picture of how that
works, I refer you to a book by Jean Mater, "Citizens Involved: Handle
with Care! A Forest Industry Guide to Working with the Public,"
published in 1977, which is a classic on how to shape public opinion
on this topic.

Sorry, hon.  You can't BS someone who's been around and has read the
lit on both sides since the early 80s, and who's had connections to
the timber industry through friends and family.

jrw