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Article #1682Re: The Media Cover-Up of the Gore Victory
From: Michael Dix
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 23:59
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 23:59
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Baxter wrote:
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> "Michael Dix" <look@sig.please.because.this.is.invalid> wrote in message
> news:400F5D18.8050900@sig.please.because.this.is.invalid...
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>>Baxter wrote:
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>>>It wasn't the Democratic Party. You're attempting to paint the Dems as
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> a
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>>>villain. They're not. Far more damage was done to democracy by the
>>>Repuglicans blocking the count than was ever done by anyone's attempt to
>>>enforce laws on the books. The specific case you cite is simply a
>>>difference between Federal and State law that has nothing to do with
>>>Political parties. In fact, the ruling points that out.
>>
>>All the countable (i.e. machine-readable) votes were counted. Next
>>time, punch the chads all the way through.
>>
>>The "state law" applied to mutilated ballots, not unpunched ones.
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> State law applies to all ballots where the "intent of the voter" can be
> determined. You can turn in a unpunched card with your selection written on
> it and it is valid and countable.
Do you have any reference for that? The only mention of "intent
of the voter", from the Florida statutes in 2000, refers to
damaged or defective voting cards:
Search box on http://www.flsenate.gov/Statutes/index.cfm
Set year to 2000.
The 2000 Florida Statutes
Title IX
ELECTORS AND ELECTIONS Chapter 101
Voting Methods And Procedure View Entire Chapter
101.5614 Canvass of returns.--
(5) If any ballot card of the type for which the offices and measures
are not printed directly on the card is damaged or defective so that
it cannot properly be counted by the automatic tabulating equipment, a
true duplicate copy shall be made of the damaged ballot card in the
presence of witnesses and substituted for the damaged ballot. Likewise,
a duplicate ballot card shall be made of a defective ballot which shall
not include the invalid votes. All duplicate ballot cards shall be
clearly labeled "duplicate," bear a serial number which shall be
recorded on the damaged or defective ballot card, and be counted in lieu
of the damaged or defective ballot. If any ballot card of the type for
which offices and measures are printed directly on the card is damaged
or defective so that it cannot properly be counted by the automatic
tabulating equipment, a true duplicate copy may be made of the damaged
ballot card in the presence of witnesses and in the manner set forth
above, or the valid votes on the damaged ballot card may be manually
counted at the counting center by the canvassing board, whichever
procedure is best suited to the system used. If any paper ballot is
damaged or defective so that it cannot be counted properly by the
automatic tabulating equipment, the ballot shall be counted manually at
the counting center by the canvassing board. The totals for all such
ballots or ballot cards counted manually shall be added to the totals
for the several precincts or election districts. No vote shall be
declared invalid or void if there is a clear indication of the intent of
the voter as determined by the canvassing board. After duplicating a
ballot, the defective ballot shall be placed in an envelope provided for
that purpose, and the duplicate ballot shall be tallied with the other
ballots for that precinct.
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mjdix@sonic.net
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